• limerod@reddthat.comM
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    1 year ago

    The fuss is that 3rd party apps need a persistent notification to stay alive. But, because Google owns pixels, it can skip that step and be less intrusive/visible, which others can not.

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        1 year ago

        Persistent notification was added in response to android 8+ background restrictions. You didn’t need it before.

        Apps that need to be constantly alive do that to avoid being killed by the system on android devices that are not stock or pixel. Apps like tasker, accubattery, Internet speed meter, adguard all target the latest android version 12 or higher.

        We are on android 14. You can not install apps targeting android 5 from the playstore today.

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      1 year ago

      Cite your sources because that’s not how persistent notification works. PIA doesn’t need it. It sounds like a poorly written app.

      Edit: DNS66 as well.

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        1 year ago

        Because (from what I’ve read) battery optimization may still kill them, depending on the phone.

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        1 year ago

        I checked playstore reviews of wireguard, and people are complaining that wireguard stops working after a while. Which makes me think. For wider compatibility and persistent background tasks, you do need one to stay alive.

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        Unfortunately, that will mean your app can be killed on many smartphones from device makers like xiaomi, Oppo, and huawei, which have aggressive battery optimization. I had this issue on a redmi device where background apps would be killed unless a permanent notification was present.

        The WireGuard and tailscale apps work great for me without a persistent notification.

        I haven’t tried wireguard. But, I should give them a try and see how it goes in samsung.

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            1 year ago

            The ranking may make it sound like samsung is the worst. But that’s not been the case since android 12. I do not have app reload or app killing issues on this one and find it much better than what I used to experience on miui.