Has anyone done this? Its a very proprietary program lol, so I can imagine that doesnt work.
But its powerful and my Uni supports it. I am fine with just following classes on Uni PCs and then learning QGis myself, but yeah…
Are there any tricks for running “modern”, maybe DRM infested Software?
Also, how I did it was always just running executables in existing Bottles, as I dont get having a new small OS for each app. But that doesnt seem to work that well in Bottles.
I’ve gone that road and I’ll tell you that making a windows virtual machine is much less of a headache. I’d recommend using qemu/kvm over something like virtualbox because otherwise it won’t be very usable
Yeah thats an entirely different thing. My GPU is weird and virt-manager doesnt work, while OpenGL enabled VMs are nice and smooth but had other problems with the correct viewer and all…
Asked ChatGPT for every damn parameter or viewer, user virt-viewer, remote-viewer, VNC, some GTK viewer.
I don’t do passthrough on my windows VM, since I’m not doing 3D work it still works with qxl
What’s your GPU and distro?
Without knowing those, start here
I have an AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U, Radeon Vega Mobile Graphics.
No passthrough here I guess.
Distro is Fedora Kinoite, with virgl and all that layered
Why is qemu more usable?
Because of GPU passthrough
Unless things have changed, graphics card passthrough is tough to use because you need two graphics cards. The one sent to the VM can’t be used on the host if you plan on using the guest. For laptops this can be impossible to reconcile, and even for desktops this can be… weird.
Actually, things have changed - you can passthru with just a single GPU now, and for many users, it’s actually more stable/reliable than a dual-GPU setup (as you do mention, it can be “weird”). There is a catch however, and that is of course you can’t use/switch to your host OS while the guest is running, but that shouldn’t be an issue anyways if you’re going to be working out of the guest OS. There are scripts available that make this switchover automatic and seamless.
https://github.com/QaidVoid/Complete-Single-GPU-Passthrough
Here’s a handy video that illustrated what this looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTWf5D092VY
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It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI. Windows licenses are cheap and you get things working out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’ll be productive from day zero. There are annoyances from time to time, sure, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.
It takes 15 mins to make a stable and usable windows VM, also who buys windows licenses in a Linux community
15 minutes and 2 months fixing Wine and countless hours dealing with compatibility issues when someone sends you a doc.
they’re talking about a VM, not wine. if you have a powerful enough computer to spare some resources, and don’t have a graphically-intensive application, a VM is probably a good choice if you like/need linux for most of your workflow!
What’s the point in running all your major apps in a VM? You’ll still have all the “problems” of Windows with the additional overhead of having two operating systems running…
Also virtualization is a pain not only for “graphically-intensive applications”, anything that uses GPU acceleration won’t perform that well, even the Windows UI itself. GPU passthrough is also a pain because it requires another GPU and even then you’ll have to get the image back to your system in some way which will have a performance impact on framerate.
i’m not saying that you should use a VM if everything on your PC requires windows… only if one specific app you sometimes need doesn’t work on linux!
as someone studying foreign languages for example, i know that if i want to do translation, i’ll have to use windows for some specific proprietary cat software. but i don’t spend my whole time in a cat software! i would also need to work with email, and some projects would require me to use a browser-based tao software, and in those cases, i’d much prefer being on linux to use things like a better japanese input, tiling window management if on a laptop, and generally, not having to deal with advertisments!
Okay that’s fair.
Thank you
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I’ll chime in to say their “Enterprise Linux” support is (or at least WAS in 2015) merely a wine wrapper. That said, I strongly dislike ESRI and would recommend any number of open source alternatives.
Yes they suck for sure. Its just better to use currently as I dont have to recreate everything, as we pretty much sit there and get a GUI training lol
ESRI, the Microsoft or Adobe of Cartography. It’s a shame that public authorities get convinced to pay double.
I’d bail on ArcGIS. It’s expensive and QGIS does everything you could possibly need to do without the price tag, or the windows dependency. If you know ArcGIS, Q will feel very familiar.
Do you have links for alternative resources for data, overlays etc? And does all the coding stuff work similarly?
Yes I hate this seminar. Its basically Microsoft/ArcGis advertising, so horrible
They have plug-ins for web tiles, and you can connect to the ArcGIS map services. It has a terminal, but I don’t use that function much. I generally do all data manipulation and prep using Python and postGIS, and use Q as a visualization and editing tool. But it has plugins for just about everything. Most of the data resources ESRI gives you is repackaged public data, so searching the internet will provide you with most of the layers you might need.
Esri is such a piece of shit. The same as Komoot, but corporate. How can they make so much money by reusing loosely licensed FOSS stuff?
I dont know, I think these projects made a big mistake using so loose licenses
Does it connect to the same arcgis BIM servers so I can work with my coworkers, in real architecture projects?
I don’t work in the architecture space, but a quick search gave me some guidance on how to integrate BIM models in QGIS. The 3D City Builder plug in might do what you need.
Mm, not quite, when say having 60+staff work in a single building model you need something that allows object locking so stag can work on part of a building and check it in and out.
I’m not the architect, I’m the sysadmin that designs and builds the server/network infrastructure for a half dozen architecture firms, some which have over 300 architects spread around Australia, Europe, and south East Asia. That mostly means running up servers to host BIM and BIM cache servers, as well as maintaining PIM servers.
To be honest I quizzed you because I honestly never heard of it and my life revolves around both revit and bim360, revit and revit self hosted bim servers, or archicad. Not that I do anything much in them, BIM managers generally administrate their own BIM instances and their teams. But some of the projects are in the billions of dollars that you’ll find on featured on the b1m YouTube channel.
Id argue that while the architects themselves are by and far the largest cost, the largest IT cost is the modelling software. I’ve even had some people using unreal engine to do parts of their work now especially for customer facing flythrough demonstrations and city view with time of day and all that.
So I’m pretty open minded to keeping my ears open to new software since I’m never sure what to expect. It would be interesting to see if it could ever be possible to do one of these megaprojects in open source. But my gut says it’s unlikely.
If you need to work with their FGDB format you can do that in newer versions of QGIS
Luckily not! Only shb or how its called.
shp? I’d recommend learning QGIS regardless, even if its ui looks like 💩
Good luck in your search!
Shapefiles or something, will work in QGIS. Yeah no way I am gonna use that proprietary cancer
Obligatory switch from shapefile link.
Unfortunately Shapefile is a proprietary format developed by ESRI. QGIS handles it just fine though no problems.
Urg… thanks! I will just have to send this to my Prof and see his reaction, weird Microsoft-Corporate-beard-lightblueshirt-dude
QGIS is a very nice piece of software, definitely worth checking out. Some of our geographers use Mapinfo (proprietary) but most use QGIS. Everyone hates ESRI.
Some of your classes might require some ESRI plugins… I would check with your teachers if it’s okay to use QGIS, they will certainly know the answer to that question.
I asked already and they said “use the Uni PCs but you can also do a presentation about QGIS”
Not sure what your use case is, but consider something like geojson.io if you can export the map data somehow. You might be able to do this from their interface or you might have to do browser network capturing to capture the requested data. It supports GeoJSON as well as KML, GPX, CSV, GTFS, TopoJSON formats.
Qgis has Openstreetmaps data source, but I was thinking of custom community based layers like “all wildfires in 2023” etc
I see. With the link you should be able to query a geojson file that can then be imported into geojson.io. I used Query ‘GLOBALID IS NOT null’ to get the top 50 of 2000 results. That should give you a starting piont. The first link is just a way to query the data in this link
I’m unfamilar with Qgis but I have been able to import layers into geojson.io before from arcGIS.
I tried this for the same reasons about ten years ago (college, free, etc) and found it to be essentially an insurmountable challenge. It’s a bummer since they support Linux in other ways.
Maybe it is easier now.
Hmm, could be easier and harder at the same time. DRM vs modern Wine
A good place to start is Wine’s AppDB on their website:
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1081 (replace & with just a &; Lemmy is replacing this without my control)
It looks like it’s “garbage” quality. Someone very helpfully shared: “Program cannot run”.
It looks like it’s “garbage” quality.
To be fair, that’s also true when running natively under Windows.
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Wine’s AppDB marks this as “garbage” aka “doesn’t run at all”. This is yet another case of Wine overpromising and underdelivering and also the typical collective delusion that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts.
Also, if one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it. Linux might be great but it isn’t for everyone and anyone. If you need to do your job without small annoyances that will curb your productivity it isn’t, most likely, for you.
True. Office 365 is key, Libreoffice with git is simply not existing, leave alone co working at the same time. Onlyoffice simply sucks, even though I am sure they do great work and its complex.
Cryptpad is great, but not really necessary and thereby often slow.
Cryptpad is a joke. OnlyOffice could somehow work for a web thing but the license kills it.
Cryptpad is great, but only for non selfhosting.
What license problem?
Cryptpad is great,
How so, they don’t even have a document editor that is even remotely comparable to LibreOffice, OnlyOffice or any other thing… and they really push their document “rich editor” a LOT and try to hide the OnlyOffice ones. They only seems to be willing to allow OnlyOffice to show spreadsheets.
Also Cryptpad is a pile of overly complex shit that amounts to nothing and that can be compromised - its all just pointless overhead. Anyone using a simple FileBrowser setup is better.
What license problem?
The documents sever isn’t free nor it isn’t unlimited users https://www.onlyoffice.com/docs-enterprise-prices.aspx Even if you just use the desktop version the license goes and beats around the bush in questionable ways.
Ok so you dont like Richtext? Thats okay, but doesnt really matter. Fork it if you dont like it?
Richtext will simply work better and faster, even though I understand it sucks for some things.
Having encrypted data on a server and decrypt it in the browser is not useless. I dont think you are using the correct wording here, sounds a bit polemic to me.
You were suggesting their thing was comparable to OnlyOffice/LibreOffice when in fact is isn’t, not even in the same planet.
Having encrypted data on a server and decrypt it in the browser is not useless.
Yes until it fails do decrypt or fucks up your document in some other way.
