https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism
I think it’s stupid and worrying that their ideas are gaining traction.
I am not opposed to people not having children or representing themselves as a block, but the idea that having kids is bad is just plain dumb.
My own experience in life makes it reek a lot like mental health issues in those who are antinatalists.
As someone not wanting kids and getting a vasectomy at 27, I personally have multiple reasons why I don’t want them. And I know more people like me with many different, personal reasons.
My brother on the other hand has four children, and we have had conversations about this. Although we both want the opposite in life, we came to the agreement that having more than two children is bad for the environment because of overpopulation. He just accepts doing something “wrong”, because it makes him happy. And in the end it evens out: some people have multiple children, others have none. All good, if you ask me.
Anyone can have as many children as they want, if they can support, provide and care for them, otherwise they become other people’s problem.
otherwise they become other people’s problem.
I mean yes, but also if people want to retire they need a workforce to keep society running, no? This is not me advocating for having kids, but for society helping raise kids.
Sure, if we had governments who cared for the wellbeing of their citizens, and companies that paid fair wages, but sadly we are just “human capital” or “human resources”. I’m not contributing to that.
My own experience in life makes it reek a lot like mental health issues in those who are antinatalists.
I mean, is that not a good enough reason not to have kids?
Assertions I’d like to make, in no specific order:
- Yes, my retirement might not even happen because of falling birthrates.
- We live in a world of finite resources and an imperfect method of distributing them.
- It’s only going to get worse, especially with climate change.
- If we don’t have a population contraction voluntarily now, eventually we’re going to have one involuntarily later, as people turn to force.
- Wars over constrained resources are an end in and of themselves. It doesn’t even matter if you gain control of other resources; if you win, you get more resources to buy your people a little more time. If you lose, you got rid of a lot of people who need and want things.
These problems are all solvable. These problems are also not plausibly going to be solved, as those who have will do their level best to turn away from those who have not. We have literal centuries of evidence neatly showcasing just how selfish our systems are, and how resilient to change they are.
You can absolutely have as many kids as you want. I personally think it’s myopic, as you’re forcing someone else to deal with these problems and you didn’t even give them an option - and by the time they’re old enough to understand the magnitude of the problem, they’re in too deep to get out. It just screams of selfishness and duplicity to me. But, I mean, I’m still friends with omnivores - hell, I’m one myself - being selfish and inconsistent is kinda fundamentally what humans are, so it’s not like my shit doesn’t stink too.
Edit: I should also note that the one reason I allow myself to eat animal products is because I’ve said “well, I’m not having kids, so I’m just a temporary problem, not an ongoing one”
It’s a personal philosophy. There are pros and cons to having kids. I can understand why more people are leaning this way given that it is difficult to believe that things will improve in the future. I don’t think it’s a stupid philosophy but I don’t specifically identify with it.
