• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    18 days ago

    Consumption matters because it’s the actual, net impact of someone. The EU cannot produce what it needs anymore because they are imperialist, bank and industrial capital merged into monopoly long ago. Finance is what drives the EU, not production, and as a consequence it does not produce what it needs to survive. The EU depends on super-exploitation of foreign labor, neocolonialism to ensure access to raw materials, and greenwashes by erasing this dependency on the global south.

    Imagine a landlord, saying that nobody needs to work to live because they simply own property. The problem with this is immediately clear, as long as there are landlords, there are tenants that they rely on, without the tenants there is no landlord, and these tenants must perform labor to pay their rent. It’s the same with the EU as the landlord, producers like China as the tenants, and emissions as labor. The EU erases its own dependency on emissions by pretending that they are independent from them.

    As for China, they have far stronger environmental regulations than you seem to think. China today is lightyears ahead of the China of the 80s and 90s, which you seem trapped into picturing them as. China’s ecosocialist initiatives far exceed those of the EU, and matter far more because they produce what much of the world actually relies upon. Their per capita emissions are very low when compared to consumption, yet are still working to tackle climate change as best as they can. The EU essentially pushes their responsibilities onto others.

    There’s no cope here, you just fundamentally do not seem to understand how greenwashing and imperialism work.

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      17 days ago

      If we’re taking into account consumption then China is even worse. They are over half the worlds emissions. They should have a bigger focus on reducing that. Their eco positive initiatives are barely a drop in the bucket compared to all the damage they’ve done.

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          11 days ago

          No country can force china to make something. China chooses to and because they dont care about emissions or environmental regulation its cheaper.

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            11 days ago

            China is the only country with anywhere close to its productive capacity taking such a hard stance on decreasing emissions, precisely because they aren’t dominated by the profit motive. Imperialist countries greenwash by pretending they aren’t reliant on production done outside.

            It’s like a landlord bragging that they don’t need to work to live. Someone has to work so the landlord can live, it just isn’t the landlord.

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              10 days ago

              not true there are plenty of countries that could have scaled if they ignored calls to reduce emissions

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                10 days ago

                China isn’t ignoring calls to reduce emissions, it’s one of the only countries effectively meeting them while producing what the entire world relies upon. That you continue to fall for the green washing from imperialist countries blaming China for their own parasitic economies is baffling.

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                  9 days ago

                  China isnt ignoring calls to reduce emissions they’ve just spent the last 15 years exponentially increasing emissions.

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                    6 days ago

                    Per capita consumption, ie the actual environmental impact of the average citizen of China, is far below the EU. You’re falling for greenwashing while China continues to focus on creating an actually green producer country, instead of pretending the fact that you don’t produce anything means you’re good environmentally.