I guess. You could also look at things like plastic pollution where industry straight up won, and during the 60s-70s successfully pushed the responsibility onto consumers to recycle while continuing to crank out single use plastic with very few restrictions.
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I don’t know of any for the ozone hole specifically, but you can look to the fight over cigarettes to see the same science-denying approach during the 50s and beyond. That was literally the blueprint for climate change denial by the fossil fuel industry in later decades.
Stopping climate change is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE harder than protecting the ozone layer. Protecting ozone requires switching the chemicals we used in refrigerants and propellants to other, viable alternatives. That affected products worth, generously, maybe 1% of GDP?
Stopping climate changing the vast majority of the vehicles on the planet, along with the majority of our electrical power plants. It also necessitates stopping deforestation and overhauling a wide number of industrial processes, including for basic materials like steel and concrete. And that’s not even getting into methane emissions from livestock.
All of these things add up to a massive chunk of the planets GDP. It’s an extremely heavy lift, and it’s not fair to say that the world has gotten worse because we’re struggling more with climate change than the ozone hole.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•Is anybody else worried about the lack of diverse opinion here?
184·10 days agoYeah it absolutely would benefit from a wider range of opinions. That’s why a large portion of my comments are “against the grain”, I don’t see the value of reinforcing prevailing opinions in an echo chamber. I hope that as Lemmy grows we will see more diverse opinions, but what I think is more likely is that the hard-core leftist part of Lemmy will sort of secede and defederate so they can preserve their echo chamber while the rest of lemmy gets taken over by “normies”
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What is your least favourite thing about the fediverse or lemmy?
2·15 days agoNot very Auth of you! You sound like a hedonistic libertarian to me.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What is your least favourite thing about the fediverse or lemmy?
3·15 days agoIt takes patience but you can block all the political communities. Once you do that you just have to block a dozen or so super users who spam the other communities with political content.
That’s the thing that drives me crazy- communities that really should be non-political like “Pictures” or idk “Cars” are full of posts like “Heres what Trumps reversal of EPA regulations means for the future of EVs.” Like I get it Trumps bad but can’t you contain that discussion to the 5000 communities devoted to politics?
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Linux in California is in deep trouble - The Bryant Review
12·17 days agoYeah that’s literally what a lot of aftermarket motorcycle parts say.
Well it’s interesting that it makes regular ringing/metallic sounds when it’s dropped(at least in the movies), so it is not inelastic. Which means it could be deformed if placed under extreme force but it would always spring back into shape. So I think it might be the world’s most powerful spring.
…well that is unfortunate humanity is cooked haha
Time to give this a watch m8. Never give in.
You’re downvoted but you’re right. AI slop will never replace the world’s best musicians, artists, writers or actors-but it can definitely replace entry level, unimaginative, stock-footage type stuff. And then the creative arts die from the bottom up. In a few decades the artistic world might look a lot more like how it did centuries ago, with the content makers largely being privileged and connected people because it’s so much harder to work your way up from the bottom.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•Which Animals are the worst, and why so?
2·1 month agoThey are mean but I like them and hornets because they kill pests. As long as they’re not making nests in my yard yellow jackets are cool with me.
Bald-faced hornets have a really bad reputation but I had a nest under my roof overhang and they were awesome. Built a beautiful hive and never gave me any trouble even when I walked right below them. There were a couple days last year where invasive June bugs were swarming around my house and I saw a hornet snatch one right out of the air which was pretty badass.
It’s frustrating how many assumptions people make about your beliefs just because you are trying to make a purely fact-based correction. Like if I try to say something like “the victim was actually armed when they were shot by the police” (made up example) people just instantly assume I’m a fascist bootlicker when I’m really just trying to get the facts straight. It’s just that misinformation that goes against prevailing opinion gets instantly swatted down but misinformation that validates people’s opinions is tolerated way more than it should be.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•My therapist says she might have to report my abusive family to the authorities. How do I avoid being reported so the cops don't show up and make everything worse?
12·2 months agoYeah suing his therapist is NOT what op needs to be doing here
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What's an objectively terrible movie that you love anyway?
7·2 months agoThey really had something there with Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. The aesthetic of the movie is cool, I didn’t hate watching it in theaters even though it’s pretty dumb.
Illegal take but I actually do like smart TVs. Unless you never use any streaming services, it’s a useful feature that would otherwise require an external device to do the same thing. Now if you have your own home server or something, that’s cool too, but that’s more hassle than I want to deal with.
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Traditional Art@lemmy.world•Woman in scifi armor by Hajime SorayamaEnglish
21·2 months agoOk my apologies I FINALLY understand what is going on with her feet. I thought her right foot being missing was a clear example of a mistake only AI would make but it is just arch-up away from the viewer.
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Traditional Art@lemmy.world•Woman in scifi armor by Hajime SorayamaEnglish
18·2 months agoYeah I agree I think this is AI, you can tell by the way that it is.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What was the most under rated British TV show ever for you?
7·2 months agoSean the Sheep




I don’t think that’s true, we have more trees than we did 100 years ago but I couldn’t see anything about more trees than pre-European settlement. I am inclined to doubt that.