It’s already like that here, friend.

Lemmy didn’t take off until well into May 2023, despite being online and open source for over 4 years. The quantity of posts, communities, comments was very small for 4 years online.

Then everyone flocked out of hate and anger of an API money matter with Reddit.Then crowds got hate-filled and angry when Threads was launched by Meta/Instagram/Facebook on July 5. And crowds became hate-filled and angry over Elon Musk rename of Twitter to X on July 23.

Outside big growth in memes and shitposts, there haven’t been big numbers of people flocking here out of organic goodness on organized topics. It has largely been a HiveMind of hate as a motivation to come here since May.

Some good seeds have been planted since May, but the atmosphere of hate motivates change is pretty much Mob Mentality / reactionary.

Are we blocked from editing communities that we created? I tried to revise the sidebar of https://sh.itjust.works/c/jukebox and the “save” network works.

most likely, yes. There was no notice of a planned outage, and the timing of them both going down within 15 minutes of each other. Lemmy server programming code isn’t very robust when it comes to performance, it is possible to busy up the database to a point that the site become unresponsive. I don’t know what is going on with lemmy.ml being entirely unreachable, the devs who run that server don’t normally work on weekends… and normally nginx responds with an error at minimum. Nothing at all is loading

lemmy.world is reachable, but no database connections, it has an “Error” page on every post I try to load. Which this post itself on Lemmy.world serves as example: https://lemmy.world/post/1578844

Lemmy.world down now for over 30 minutes, Lemmy.ml over an hour (I created this post on Lemmy.world before it went down). Distant Early Warning Sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrDj5XvZXX4

Kbin and Lemmy seem to not agree on time zones, there has been some mention on GitHub.

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Major performance problems have been fixed in Lemmy in the past 48 hours, with more pending in the next 24. The latest code on GitHub is far better than 0.17.4/0.18.0 in terms of hammering the server.

The admin of Beehaw told me to post it on Lemmy.ml despite the message being that the server was down.

They say it was a DDOS attack:

Beehaw is suppressing the news about a Lemmy outage, when their /c/Technology community is about rumors in the sidebar!

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Lemmy 0.18 (and earlier) has no ability to save the federation queue, when the server stops it forgets what it had in retry to send. I suspect the problem is more the other servers going down causing lemmy.ml to keep crashing on outbound content it is sending. There are hundreds of small servers out there subscribed to lemmy.ml’s communities.

@lixus98 I can’t reply to your comment for some reason… here is my reply

There is a community on the enterprise server we started putting them in. The markdown rendering you linked has been mentioned: https://enterprise.lemmy.ml/post/416737

Keep in mind that the outbound comment/post sending queue is in RAM only and will be lost in 0.17.4 with a restart

An internal crash was identified in Lemmy and 0.18 should have fixed it. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3076

Good news, the new version, 0.18 is in beta testing today. Hopefully it comes soon.

I’m seeing 9 days old, it’s really stuck.

There is an open bug about internal crashes within lemmy_server: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3076

A restart of the lemmy_server service might get it fixed for one-time.

Quite many comments that were over an hour old were missing. I guess there’s a problem with the federation.

I opened an issue on Github about the replication failures of posts and comments between servers. It is not really getting much attention: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3101

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I think it’s just a matter of time before there are alternate-federated networks for Lemmy… different lists of federated servers that the install peers with.

I’m just curious what my fellow sh.it.heads think of this development in the fediverse, any input is appreciated!

I think performance problems with the Lemmy database lead to a lot more fragmentation… it didn’t scale well and instances were telling people to spread around. That and the discovery of remote instances being unintuitive - plus the data replication problems (see: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3101) has laid a rather chaotic foundation. People are still trying to get their server installs up and running today, there are a huge number of servers, and I expect when those severs go offline there will be a mess left over of orphan posts, comments, etc.

I don’t think anyone planned it this way, they were working for several years to create an alternative to Reddit and you find communities with mods who created them 3 years ago and stopped using Lemmy… it will be an interesting year, for sure.