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Yes, that’s a more correct use of “prisoners dilemma:” a choice to either cooperate or defect. Origin below, for the curious.

The dilemma

Two prisoners are interrogated in separate rooms. Each is asked to snitch in exchange for a reduced sentence.

Because they’re separated, the prisoners can’t coordinate, but each knows the other is offered the same deal and the interrogator will only offer bargains that increase their combined years of imprisonment.

For example, “house wins” if snitch gets -2 years and snitchee gets +3 years, since interrogator would net +1 year from the deal.

So what will each prisoner do?

The result

Of course, the best outcome overall is for neither to snitch, and the worst is for both to snitch.

The Nobel-Prize-winning observation was that any prisoner faced with this dilemma (once) will always net a lesser sentence if they snitch than if they don’t, no matter what the other decides.

In other words, two perfect players of this game will always arrive at the worst result (assuming they only expect to play once). This principle came to be known as the Nash equilibrium.

Applications

The result above sounds bleak because it is, but real-world analogs of this game are rarely one-offs and thus entail trust, mutuality, etc.

For example, if the prisoners expect to play this game an indeterminate number of times, the strategy above nearly always loses (the optimal strategy, in case you’re wondering, is called “tit-for-tat” and entails simply doing whatever your opponent did last round).

The study of such logic problems and the strategies to solve them is called game theory.

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Thank you!

Donald — He asks that you now call him that — thanks you for your continued service, for the outstandingly explicit misogyny, ageism, chauvinism, victim blaming, eugenicist contempt, uncontrollable seething hatred and mommy issues you have now publicly expressed in your rampage against His victims.

It’s people like you doing the greatest work to shape social discourse in His Image, to sow hatred and discord, to further galvanize His voter base, and to fracture that of His enemies who trusted you.

He wishes to convey that your thirst for the blood of your weakest countrymen, your betrayal of democratic values and esprit de corps, and your abandonment of any sense of justice or morality in service of His Vision has not gone unnoticed. Even He finds it delightfully grotesque.

We all expect great things from your campaign of terror against the working class. Keep up the good work.

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NO FUCKING WORKING CLASS PERSON IS GIVING $5000 TO ANY POLITICAL CAMPAIGN

Dude 5k is absolutely within reach of many working class retirees, especially widows. They do give that much and more. But that’s not the point.

Those old widows aren’t working, and probably never did.

Working class has never meant currently working, or even formerly working. But that’s not the point.

Now they just sit around taking up space, driving up house prices

Is this a “useless eater” argument? A person’s ability is not what gives them the right to not be murdered. But even that is not the point.

Selling out their children’s future to the next dipshit conman that comes along.

Is this defending generational wealth inheritance? Because that’s part of how we got here. At least be consistent. But that is not the point.

People who have 5k to piss away aren’t working for that money

Again many working class retirees have some combination of retirement savings, pension, SSI, SSDI, insurance and LTC vehicles, etc, that can put 5k of liquid assets within reach, even if it costs them dearly. But that’s not the point.

You start from the top down until you get the changes you want.

Only for the true global elite would top-down be a sound strategy, and again the elites won’t be on your list because they give differently. And it’s only sound because it associates wealth itself with risk, directly counteracting their incentive for further oppression/profit. But that’s not the point.

The point: if you murder people for the way they vote, or even threaten to do so, you become a fascist yourself.

This isn’t how we win. Get your ass into therapy before hate consumes you.

Oh that was just for other readers. Of course you and I know it’s from the German teurer bescheuerter Irrtum.

Edit: adjective case agreement

TBI = severe bump to noggin

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You guys did once have a successful working relationship. It’s not entirely out of the question. International coordination will be important by the end, regardless.

That said, Americans appear to already be actively protesting every day in most states. Mostly civil but a few have gotten spicy. I’ve not seen any fire-bombing-the-police levels of spiciness we saw in France, so I guess Americans could step up their game.

But it’s really hard to say because coverage right now is evidently being heavily suppressed across all major news sources and digital platforms. Like a couple times now I’ve seen live streams of big active and loud protests that I can’t find any trace of the following day, even in archives, as if it never happened. I need to learn how to record livestreams if only to remind myself I’m not crazy. I guess we’re all still adapting to the new normal.

Violence is periodically required to maintain it, yes, but if the effort is to succeed there are always many types of people involved, including some who have no stomach for violence. Insisting that everyone partake in violence, or using it to sadistically goad comrade non-combatants, is a common form of hazing that should never be tolerated.

Shall I compare thee to a Summer’s day?

the “great American experiment” is over

It’s not over till it’s over, comrade.

I saw this weird behavior called “vice signaling” a few years back and I’ve used the term ever since. It’s the perfect name for their anti-woke anti-anti-fascist demonstrations because “virtue signaling” is what they call acts of basic decency.

For example, Reagan spent additional government funds just to remove the solar panels from the roof of the White House because they were wasteful since solar “didn’t work.” Clearly, the more wasteful choice of removing them was justified. Smh

Nice. Will they put Brawndo ads on the Washington Monument?

I remember this. The petition was more about security assurance than a specific accusation, and the letter from Spoonamore was sus because he is a known attention-seeking alarmist (and sole-proprietor of a cybersecurity consulting company that he pumps a lot).

Spoonamore cried wolf too many times to be taken very seriously, but also his “analysis” is weirdly unspecific just like his deflection in interviews. It honestly felt like those “security alert!” popups from fake antivirus software, if that makes sense, like the point isn’t security just the alert.

Ultimately the gold standard for verification is random sample hand counts, and several rounds of these confirmed software tallies within very small margins. That basically closes the case, because if they “hacked” the hand counts, it would mean the conspiracy went well beyond tampering with voting software.

Uh, 5k? Your biggest hitlist demographic is senile old widows, the trifecta of Trump’s favorite target donor groups.

Killing them would not only be evil, it would only serve Trump. The top donors use super PACs and give way more than 5k, but the list of elites backing Trump and toppling democracies globally requires no doxxing, because they own public companies.

Do not kill working class Republican voters.

While I haven’t always lived among Americans, I’ve known many of them from many places, and I think this assessment is inaccurate. The ones you see the most online, especially on social media, are really not a representative sample.

Most Americans aren’t terminally online automatons, and although corporations and their own government have worked together to brainwash them into complacency, the gestalt of their culture and value systems still elevate the spirit of rebellion. I suspect that, by the end, you will see America become one of the noisiest fronts in the global war against these tyrannical elites.

This is consensus among even the most conservative of historians, economists, and political scientists I’ve known. On the other hand, I’ve come across quite a few leftists here who disagree. When I lived in Russia the other kids would say it was only the oldest people who had anything good to say about the old system, and everyone else remembered mostly brutality, poverty, and fear.