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  • depends how the loans worked.
    I was assuming his majority shares of X (ex Twitter) collateral.
    And that that he could just go “yeah, go on, collect on your collateral, I don’t mind”, because it’s not worth anything anymore.

    But admittedly I have no Idea how the contracts were drawn up, if this is possible and if his other money would be available to collect on.













  • Not quite sure what your point is, just general apathy?

    That we have different perspectives. I already see us as the old guys shouting at the clouds (of reddit etc) for being bad. I certainly shout enough at most of Metas and Googles and Apples and Tencents products to fit that bill. I certainly don’t have all of the technology that some other people use, because I’m not willing to sell my soul to those companies any more.
    I don’t feel like an early adopter. Lemmy is 4 years old, ActivityPub is 5 years old, Mastodon is 7 Years old.
    I feel much more like a niche idiot who doesn’t want to give FAANG the rights to his data, and because of that doesn’t live with the times and doesn’t have google maps, isn’t on instagram for my friends to reach and doesn’t know about the latest tiktok trend.

    If meta comes you’re not going to get to “go back here”, that’s the whole point of discussion - what them coming means for the current fediverse and what kind of damage it can cause.

    No, it’s about what happens here when meta comes. We will not stop it.
    And yes, Meta can do quite a lot of damage, although I’d guess a “non-meta-fediverse” i.e. a fediverse that completely blocks all meta-content would reasonably quickly look just like this, because it’s what we have right now.
    Anyway, because of the damage they can do, one should talk to them. Even if you can’t sway them one iota, you learn of their plans, and can act accordingly.

    You can still do the same on reddit yet you felt the need to come here, so obviously you care at least a bit about outside interference.
    No I can’t create a small reddit and federate with my friends small reddit, let alone the mother-reddit.
    I can’t even create a small (modern) reddit, as the code is not open anymore.


  • Nobody’s saying that, in terms of user bases, the Fediverse is comparable to Facebook or Instagram

    Well, maybe I got the wrong impression, but I felt like the userbase of the fediverse was implied as the motivation for Meta federating.
    And I wanted to put in a comparison, why I don’t think that this is the case.

    I don’t see a reason why Meta should want Threads to federate, except for “well, whatever, doesn’t hurt us to get those fractions of a percent”. They’ll probably have to use whitelists anyway, due to different legal situations on different instances. So at best they’ll federate with some of the bigger instances.

    Most of us have been on Facebook or Reddit and have given up on those bigger communities and adopted the Fediverse because it aligns with our values and privacy principles.

    I’m sorry to tell you, but your privacy isn’t exactly great here.
    Every Thread, Comment and Upvote at least can be requested from any fediverse instance.
    And do you know what, you don’t even have to be a fediverse instance yourself to do that.
    But I guess you knew that, so you’re here because nobody tracks what you look at, which is great, and because you like Open Source.
    That’s not going to Change when Meta Federates.

    Facebook does not. Its Fediverse platform will not suddenly be the opposite of what the company has been doing for more than a decade.

    That’s true.
    But it will be two things, if I may steal the analogy of someone else in this thread:
    first it will be a black hole ripping through the Fediverse.
    I’d like that to do as little damage as possible.
    I’d love it if mastodon continues to grow after Metas release, and doesn’t collapse under server costs, Spam and other detrimental effects.
    For that, preparing for the coming storm seems useful.

    second it will be a huge amount of possible connections, of people.
    I’d love to be able to toot a reply to some meta thread.
    I mean, wouldn’t it be nice if the fediverse would already know certain rules that meta may require to federate with them? And I mean sensible rules, like no/flagged porn, issues with piracy etc.
    One could also talk about how Meta allows/blocks instances. A lot of legal trouble for Meta could probably be avoided if they only show posts from a whitelist of instances, but any user could post to their instance.
    But how would they deal with non-whitelisted instances trying to pull Threads-Content?
    Maybe they want to talk about how to deal with those “half-federating” situations, because this is not the current norm, and they may not actually get more bad press when a meeting could have prevented it.

    For both of these effects I think communication with meta can only help.