but we do owe them an apology once all the information is out.

No - we don’t owe a serial killer an apology if turns out they murdered ninety-nine people instead of a hundred.

the polite thing to do is apologize for thinking badly of them

No, there is nothing “polite” about “apologizing” to a genocidal settler-colonialist state.

They don’t bat an eyelid when you accuse Israel of being an Apartheid-state - it’s like water flowing off a duck’s back. Call Israel a kapo state, however, and they lose their shit. That they can’t ignore.

I recently came back to Lemmy from reddit to escape the batshit pro-Israel censorship happening on there right now and I have to say that the quality of the content and discussion has just gone up.

In other words, these laws are not “fighting pedophilia”. They are enabling child abuse.

So no different than all these laws that (supposedly) “stop sex trafficking” which only exist to clamp down on sex work while… drumroll… making absolutely no dent in actual sex trafficking?

Yeah… that tracks.

They’re relatively cheap and provide a lot of nutritional value for the weight - I buy them in big bags straight from the farmer’s market. Tree nuts (peanuts aren’t actually nuts at all - they’re legumes) are literally a luxury only the rich can afford in my country these days - kind of ironic since we’re the world’s top producer of macademia nuts.

Roasting them is actually important since that degrades aflatoxins - they also just taste better.

Why am I actually responding to a comment that is saying muslims don’t want to exterminate Jews.

Let me guess… you’re a product of the US education system?

You don’t have the foggiest idea of the history you are feigning expertise in here, do you?

Sure the liberal ones don’t, but wtf?

What “liberals,” Clyde? The only Palestinian “liberals” you will find are the corrupt lapdog racketeers “managing” the West Bank at the behest of Israel. If Hamas takes them out, very few Palestinians will lose any sleep over it… and rightly so.

and care for its citizens,

If the Israeli government cared about the people it (supposedly) represents it wouldn’t be turning them into violent colonialist goons to do the west’s bidding in the middle-east, would it?

You might just as well ask how to fix the Apartheid-regime without upsetting white people or fix the Nazi regime without discomforting Nazis.

The conflict is extremely complicated.

It really isn’t. It’s just pro-Israeli propaganda pretending it’s complicated.

This attack will energize the populations of a lot of middle-eastern regimes that have been playing footsie with Israel over the last few decades - so yeah… both in the long and short term things are looking shaky for Israel. Would it lead to WW3? Unlikely… even if Israel’s geopolitical reach and importance is curbed by this, the US already has another thug regime in the area that can do it’s dirty work for it - Saudi Arabia.

Israel doesn’t trust Hamas.

Then maybe Israel shouldn’t have funded them.

The blockade, which, mind you, is also enforced by Egypt

The US-backed dictatorship in Egypt is doing the US’s bidding? You don’t say…

Any civilian casualties are to be condemned.

Israel hasn’t made much distinction between combatants and non-combatants since 1949 - can’t blame Hamas for playing by Israel’s rules.

Yet, you must remember that Hamas likes to base itself under hospitals, schools, mosques.

Right, because there are vast tracts of unused real estate in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet, eh?

If that is not surgical, I don’t know what is.

There is no such thng as a “surgical” artillery shell, Clyde. And as for the claim itself… the IDF is no more trustworthy than the Apartheid security forces were.

Fuck Israel.

It was then the Romans and the Muslims that did the oppression and genocide.

When did the Muslim-world commit genocide against Jewish people? The medieval Muslim-world was a safe haven for Jewish communities - as opposed to Christendom… you know - the place where antisemitism originates from?

Your abolishment of boundaries and countries is also a very simplistic world view.

I’d say that fetishizing lines drawn on a map is a pretty simplistic thing in itself.

Without government, you can’t stop the strong from obliterating the weak.

So your solution is to allow the strong a government so that they can obliterate the weak even more easily?

You just tried to say that Israel’s supporters are antisemitic?

No. I never tried to say it.

I just plain said it - the countries that enable Israel is as antisemitic and white supremacist as they have always been. They’ve been hiding it since WW2 - but, as the resurgence of mask-off far-right ideology in the US and Europe proves, it’s still the same old west.

The west’s support for Israel has always been antisemitic - dumping European Jewish people in Palestine was literally one the Nazi’s potential solutions to the “Jewish Question”. It’s no secret - just mundane history that westerners doesn’t like talking about.

Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism - the whole reason these white supremacist and antisemitic societies fantasized about a modern-day “Israel” was simply because they did not believe Jewish people belonged in their precious “white” societies.

You don’t have to think about it for very long to see it for yourself - who were the people that made it so difficult for Jewish people to “belong” in western societies? If the US was so friendly and welcoming to Jewish people as the US wants to pretend it is (prominent Jewish people like Steven Spielberg and Noam Chomsky will happily tell you about US-style antisemitism), why would Jewish people need a “homeland” in the middle-east?

It’s never just been the US - Israel doesn’t just have a whole bunch of enablers… said enablers also back the very idea of a modern-day Israel.

France, the UK, Germany, Australia, Apartheid-era South Africa all played their part in helping with all this - I guess the fact that it’s all countries with histories that are deeply entwined with white supremacism, antisemitism and colonialism is purely coincidence, eh?

When they remove old.reddit it’s over for me - there is no browser I’ve tried that new.reddit hasn’t managed to crash within a few minutes of using it.

But I’ll stay on old.reddit for as long as possible… there are just too many nazis and fascists waiting in the wings to hijack the communities I’ve put a lot effort into. It’s better to just milk them for as long as possible.

Also, i thought ghengis khan was all about meritocracy.

No… Genghis Khan wasn’t a joke. Meritocracy is.

I learnt meritocracy is a joke long before I discovered that it was literally invented to be a joke.

Hmmm… most interesting. Thanks!

The only thing that makes data useful to humanity is the fact that it can be copied - not copying data is unethical.

are you really saying that professional troops are less effective than untrained conscripts who really don’t want to be there?

Firstly… there is absolutely no rule that says conscripts have to be untrained, just like there’s no rule that says a conscript wouldn’t necessarily want to be there - but that’s irrelevant to the question at hand.

More importantly, yes - a citizen army can be more effective than a professionalized one. Napoleon Bonaparte’s armies proved that to the world to such a degree that military theorists of the time literally thought the professional military obsolete. Of course, the problem with a citizen army is that you have to animate the citizenry with a cause that can actually be justified - kind of a difficult thing to do if you’re waging colonialist wars that only benefit the wealthy half-way around the world. Which is what a professional military is good for - that’s why the US didn’t experience the same level of revolt in the ranks during the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan as they did during the war on Vietnam.

but a professional army would have been much more effective

Ukraine did have a professional army at the start of the war - almost all countries do. Not even NATO would be able to defeat Russia with a purely professionalized force - that’s pure fantasy.

“Progressive” is merely another word for reformist… ie, people who will (at best) achieve absolutely nothing except the continuation of “business as usual.”

What meagre labor protections (for instance) the working class in the west has wasn’t won because of reformists… it was won in spite of them by militant and thoroughly radical labor organising.