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  • The problem is that the largest voting bloc is the Baby Boomers and they’re just electing their peers because they refuse to recognize that they’re old enough that they should have passed that baton about 20 years ago. Not that Gen X would be substantially better given their demographic’s track record and history of lead poisoning during developmental periods, but it would at least be a slight nudge in the right direction. It’s going to be decades before the Millenials and younger have enough votes to overcome the older, more conservative blocs, but that’s not accounting for the proportion of younger people that have been entirely brainwashed by monsters like Kirk, Tate, and Fuentes.








  • The original Hippocratic oath forbids abortions. So do many of the modern versions. There are plenty of physicians that keep true to that oath.

    And if people can’t get the care from that physician that was arrested for saving someone’s life, that is the state’s problem

    Yes, and when informed of the fact that it is responsible for the lives of its’ citizens, the state said “lol no” and went right back to dismantling every single system constructed to support human life in this country.

    We have already seen GOP state congresses overturn the will of the voters. No amount of outcry or protest will reverse the course of arresting and persecuting physicians and women involved with abortion care will ever overcome the gerrymandering. You’re advocating for physicians throwing away everything they’ve worked for their whole lives for a single patient in a way that will also leave all of their other patients without care.

    I know you are passionate and vehement about this, but unless you’re in the position to trade your entire life for this one ethical principle without regard for all of the knock-on effects, your opinion means extremely little to those who are in that position.


  • So you’re saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?

    Because that’s what you’re proposing here, functionally. OB/Gyns are already leaving these states in droves because of these bans and it’s leaving massive maternal care deserts across the South. There are already millions of people living in areas without OB/Gyn care within 100 miles drive, and now critical access rural hospitals are closing. Also, OB/delivery services are the first thing on the chopping block for budget cuts at struggling hospitals because 41% of births in America are covered by Medicaid. This number is substantially higher in the areas that are also affected by healthcare deserts meaning that up to 90-100% of births might be covered by Medicaid in some of these rural hospitals. With the Medicaid cuts, that means that the hospital loses thousands of dollars for every baby born there when they’re already deep in the red.

    Your “all or nothing” approach to what physicians should be doing leaves absolutely no consideration for the secondary effects of such actions. If providing one abortion meant the complete loss of an OB/Gyn physician to a community, the tradeoff simply is not worth it. There are so many things that can go wrong with pregnancy and delivery that are not fixable with abortion (and what if it’s a wanted pregnancy?). Depriving communities of qualified physicians is a death sentence for many women that will then be unable to access the prenatal care that could have saved their life.


  • For physicians in these total ban states, defying the law would mean the loss of everything they have. Under your edict here, OB/Gyns would lose their license no matter what. They’d lose their license under your plan if they refused to provide abortion care and they’d lose their license and face prison time if they did provide abortion care.

    Yes, it means that the women who need abortion care are going to suffer immensely, but there’s already a dire shortage of OB/Gyn physicians, so losing more of them to prison is not going to help all the women that need regular obstetric or gynecologic care and the women who need abortion care.

    This is the definition of “between a rock and a hard place” and there’s maternal mortality on both sides because when women can’t get prenatal care, it drastically increases the chances of them dying from pregnancy or delivery complications.