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    9 months ago

    Because she’s a female POC.

    The VP works behind the scenes instead of being the focus of attention. So how does anybody know if she’s ready without knowing the details of what she’s been doing since 2020.

    We can have Trump on the media to lie his ass off for an hour, but we have to clutch pearls about a Harris presidency?

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        Did we know about Biden accomplishments during Obama presidency or after?

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          Nobody likes Biden either. He’s just in because he’s not Trump.

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            I didn’t like when he was running and didn’t view fire him, but now I realize that he was the best candidate post trump. I don’t think any of the other unexperienced candidates would be able to handle the cards that were dealt with.

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              What is Biden doing beyond what his handlers tell him to do? Did you listen to Biden’s speech yesterday? It was a sloppy speech claiming support for freedom and democracy while also handing billions over to Israel to commit war crimes. Honestly, the president might as well be an AI-generated avatar. It doesn’t make a difference.

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                Is there another country in that region that could call itself democratic?

                BTW: what Israel has two weeks ago is the equivalent of US 9/11, except taking into account overall population it was even more devastating. So it is no surprise they have blood in their eyes.

                Biden still is working to moderate them, for example he convinced Israel to allow humanitarian aid there.

                It looks like information that is coming from Hamas is totally unreliable (for example, recent explosion at hospital turned out to be caused by Islamic Jihad, didn’t hit the hospital, but parking lot and didn’t kill 500 people).

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                  You sure are trying to vomit as many talking points as you can in a single post, huh? Yeah, that Biden sure is moderating Israel, asking them to give a little bit of relief in between all the war crimes and ethnic cleansing. You’re right in the 9/11 comparison, in that it was a tragedy that the government took maximum advantage of to carry out things they wanted to do all along.

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          Senator, lecturer, civil rights lawyer, spoke out against Iraq.

          Not that accomplishments matter that much. Obama had charisma. Harris not so much.

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      👌 we’re all racist and sexist. I can’t wait for the DNC to force another unpopular candidate down our throats cause demographics. Worked SO WELL the last time 🤣

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          They don’t know what they’re talking about, just cringing over women and “demographics”.

          The reality is that Kamala hasn’t really done anything to piss voters off. She hasn’t had a chance to really swing them either. Hillary was the most qualified candidate for the presidency in a long time. She was nebbish and didn’t always connect with voters either. After a 25 year psyops campaign from republicans accusing her of everything from real estate fraud to eating babies lots of people see Clinton as icky but can’t really give a reason why.

          Meanwhile OP is talking about what they do or do not like shoved down their throat.

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            Or maybe people were tired of the same old shit, seeing as things only seem to get worse and worse, and Hillary being “the most qualified candidate” i.e. the one most status quo, made her unpopular.

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              Fuck the status quo, and anyone who would cite that as a reason to usher in the racism, fascism and crony politics that republicans embrace.

              There were 2 unpaid wars blowing up the deficit an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under bush… then Obama turned that all around and the nation saw years of record economic growth, low unemployment, progressive judges were nominated and significant legislation passed. The status quo improved under one admin after practically cratering in the republican admin.

              Yet, bitching about the status quo is what brought trump. I look back at the hairs people had to split to come up with reasons to whine and moan only for them to vote trump in and make things worse.

              Every fucking bit of the status quo got worse With ne’er Hillary’s opponent. Yet still people whine about it. The fact is democrat policies would have improved things but since magic didn’t happen in 8 years across the board it’s Hillary’s fault.

              Bottom line is you’re blaming her for things white republican men never ever got blamed for despite their policies being by the reason why the status quo is how it is.

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                You’ve got it backwards. Desperately wanting to uphold the status quo is what brought Trump’s victory. When people are dissatisfied with the status quo and you’ve got Hillary going on with business as usual while Trump is promising to “drain the swamp” people will go with it even if it’s a lie. There is at least that glimmer of hope that things will be different. It’s a similar messaging as Obama’s “hope and change”.

                You talk about 2 unpaid wars, blowing up the deficit, an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under Bush, but how did Obama fix any of that? After campaigning on change, Obama continued those wars (and added more military action: https://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html), extended and expanded bailouts to wall street and failing industries (while not punishing a single person responsible), and extended and expanded the surveillance state by renewing and increasing the powers under the Patriot Act. Even his signature Affordable Care Act did little to fix issues as health insurance companies posted record profits each year. Obama nominated milquetoast judges at best in a pathetic attempt to look “centrist” and then sat idly by and let republicans rob a justice nomination. He could’ve taken action but he insisted on doing things in the most ineffectual way possible, maybe out of the thought that it was impossible for Hillary to lose.

                You’re believing this sob story about Hillary hitting some sort of glass ceiling when in reality she would’ve followed the same damn script as all these other bastards. If you’re trapped in a room, do you bang on the door or the wall? Clearly you bang on what is more likely to give in, that is why it will seem like the democrats are getting more blame, but the reality is they’ve been made into the only solution in this system and it’s a shit solution, but it’s all we got, so we have to apply as much pressure as possible on them.

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                  It’s not backwards to believe that the world doesn’t suddenly change into candy land a mere 8 years from an economic catastrophe that had the country a hair’s breadth away from straight up shutting down ATMs.

                  But that’s on Hillary? The backwards part is your expectation.

                  Both bush and Obama had GOP led congresses and throughout his entire admin Obama had to contend with republicans calling any progress socialism while question the president’s own citizenship… while claiming Hillary eats babies…

                  The US is so big it doesn’t turn on a dime and even GOP fascists couldn’t remake the country in a single term. Yet it’s Hillary’s fault we didn’t live in a Star Trek utopia 8 years after bush fucked the whole country?

                  So the precious status quo is clearly democrats’ fault for continuously supporting liberal policies that do improve people’s lives all while the GOP nominates “David Duke without the baggage” for house speakership… I got that backwards? Because in 8 years Obama didn’t creat a liberal utopia with a GOP led congress after bush damn near burnt the whole thing down?

                  Was it just not fast enough of an improvement or did trump have policies that convinced you republicans are better? I’m pretty sure none of that is on Hillary and more on people citing the “status quo” instead having a memory that persists longer than a single presidency.

                  At some point the fault has to go to stupid fucking voters who think the world changes on a dime… not onto a single candidate. It’s not a sob story involving a glass ceiling as apparently it’s a sob story of lazy morons whining that the status quo doesn’t make them feel good.

                  Things have only gotten worse so I don’t think it’s backwards to stop blaming Hillary and focus on any idiot who rather than choosing Coke vs Pepsi, requested “one large dog shit please” instead. That’s not really on Hillary and more on a history of moronic goldfish that can’t recall the last recession. It doesn’t have to be the ideal choice for someone to do the right thing. The whole argument is BS, point to a time in human history where the “status quo” was so fucking great ? Meanwhile 2016 was just so icky…

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                    You’re just making one excuse after another. Obama had a supermajority at the beginning of his term. He was in a great position to push forward for the rights of women and he had campaigned on this. Then what happened? This: https://www.reuters.com/article/obama-abortion-idUKN2946642020090430

                    The reality is that people’s lives weren’t improving, not enough. Democrats could do A LOT, A LOT, A LOOOOOT more but they insist on doing things as slow as possible, taking a tiny step forward and letting republicans take five steps back. It’s all for show and I’m sorry to inform you, but you’re being taken for a ride. The fault is not on the voters. They gave Obama a supermajority. Don’t be surprised if support fails to the wayside when insufficient action is taken. The only stupid fucks are the politicians who think they’re owed votes and the dumb fucks who parrot this absolutely idiotic line of thinking. Stop serving up a large dog shit with a kernel of corn in it as the only alternative to the regular large dog shit and then saying “well you should be happy with the kernel of corn in it!!”