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    8 months ago

    Absolutely! Probably 70%+ of the overall population realise that ACAB, but maybe 5% of Congress and the White House, if even that!

    Proportionate representation my ass!

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      Absolutely! Probably 70%+ of the overall population realise that ACAB, but maybe 5% of Congress and the White House, if even that!

      You’re sadly mistaken. Almost 80% of the population, when polled, desires police funding to stay the same or be increased.

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        Nope. Those are push polls deliberately designed to skew the results.

        Example: a prominent pollster released results claiming that most black people want more cops in their neighbourhoods.

        It was subsequently revealed that the way that the question was asked heavily implied that the only options were to do absolutely nothing about crime or increase the number of cops.

        By that time, the false narrative had taken root and been quoted as absolute fact by powerful and influential people, so the revelation received much less attention than the original misleading message, which you’re now contributing to.

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            8 months ago

            They sometimes are, yeah. Even the poll the article you’re linking to falsely assumes no alternative.

            When people are asked whether they want funding for cops to be diverted to other ways of preventing and reacting to crime, the consensus is in the affirmative.

            Just because the establishment trusts and uses Pew a lot doesn’t mean that it’s not guilty of dishonest spin.

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              When asked whether they want funding for cops to be diverted to other ways of preventing and reacting to crime, the overwhelming consensus is in the affirmative.

              One supposes you have evidence for this?

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                  From your own source:

                  Abolishing police departments. This is the most extreme proposal in response to police misconduct: disbanding police departments in favor of different public safety models. The Minneapolis City Council voted in June to go this route, saying the problems that contributed to George Floyd’s death are too deeply ingrained to reform the existing department. For most Americans, the idea of abolishing the police goes too far: 15% overall say they support it, with Black Americans (22%) and Hispanic Americans (20%) somewhat more likely than White Americans (12%) to do so. Almost no Republicans (1%) support the idea, versus 27% of Democrats and 12% of independents. However, there is also a sharp distinction between younger and older adults on this question; one-third of those younger than 35 (33%) support the idea, compared with 16% of those aged 35 to 49 and 4% of those aged 50 and older.

                  ACAB is not the majority opinion, quite clearly.

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                    That’s heavily influenced by the aforementioned “it’s cops or crime running amok” false narrative that establishment politicians and cop mouthpieces such as the NYT and most other mainstream media outlets spread ad nauseaum.

                    If ACAB isn’t a popular opinion, why would 88% of people say that significant changes are needed? Do you think it’s the uniforms they take offense to? The cars?

                    Or maybe they understandably think that the people murdering them with impunity are bastards.