Tesla owners are overwhelmingly men, and the most common occupations are engineer, software engineer, and manager of operations, one study found.

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    If I were rich I would like an EV based on the fact that I hate gasoline.

    But I dont trust my road safety on a billionaire crybaby who gets triggered by the word “cisgender”

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        Lots of better options out now. And in 5 years, Tesla may be the worst of them, given how bad their quality control is.

        I just wish it wasn’t their charging network that manufacturers were moving to, but I have to admit that it is better than the alternatives. And we do need a single standard like gas.

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        This is exactly it for me too. I’m definitely going electric in my next vehicle, but it definitely isn’t going to be a Tesla.

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          I said the same thing. Then I test drove every EV I could get my hands on and had an appointment to buy the ID.4. Then I finally caved in and test drove a model 3 just to be sure I wasn’t making a mistake. I was making a mistake. The model 3 blew everything else away at a lower price (excluding the Bolt EUV which was just boring an uncomfortable but $10k cheaper). I bought the model 3. I hate Musk and I refuse to buy his overpriced memestock too. But the car is truly fantastic.

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            @WetBeardHairs

            you hate the fascist, and you just can’t help supporting and enriching him further, because you got a better deal on a commodity. oh boy, aren’t you smart. and this is how the world ends.

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    “Six figures.”

    Can we retire this phrase? A lot of these people are earning multi-hundred-thousand dollar salaries. And many of them live in expensive areas where $100k is not some magic number that means you’re rich.

    It’s just such a cringey phrase. Not specific enough to be useful, and loaded with economic misconceptions.

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      The use of “six figures” as a measure of affluence goes back to at least the 60’s… if we use 1970 as a baseline, a salary of $100,000 then is $800,000 today, accounting for inflation.

      Inflation isn’t the whole picture , but helps to demonstrate how dated the phrase is.

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      Agreed. Between my wife and I we gross close to 200k. With a house in a Boston Suburb and 2 kids, it’s solidly middle class. Certainly a far cry from rich.

      I think that’s far from Tesla money. I drive a 10 year old VW (Passat) and she drives a 4 year old Honda (Odyssey).

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          Yes (mortgage) but even that was a bit of luck/circumstance. I’m the only child of an only child…when my grandmother died I bought out her house from the estate at a really good price.

          Stayed there for five years and poured in a bit of sweat equity.

          When we sold it went for over double what we paid. Our new house isn’t anything special (4bed/1.5 bath, 1100sqft 1970s cape-style), but it’s already risen in value nearly 50% since we bought it.

          We also refi’d last year. My wife wants to move back to RI and closer to family, but even a lateral move (similar home, similar neighborhood, similar value) would still cost much more than I’d want to pay due to the higher interest rates.

          Honestly if it weren’t for my grandmother dying I’d probably still be renting. I have no idea how people afford down payments while also renting and living a life.

          Especially in a HCOL area. We aren’t “truly” a Boston Suburb. We are outside the 495 belt and closer to Providence. Still doesn’t keep my modest house from being worth close to half a million now.

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    In DFW its mostly indians and asians that drive teslas, especially in Plano and Frisco. Its completely replaced the fully loaded honda accord and toyota camry as THE car to get.

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      I work in car insurance and noticed this whenever I see a Tesla on a policy too, they’re also usually located in the Bay Area, Texas, or a rich suburb of Seattle.

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    As a white male renter with a household income of $37,000 I don’t own a Tesla. So that checks out.

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    Overall, not surprised.

    Couple of points I noticed were missing:

    1. No race-related data was reported regarding the Model 3.
    2. No data at all from the Model Y.

    These are their most affordable models, so I’m reading this article in terms of the Model X & Model S, and not every owner. The data did say that the Model 3 was predominantly male-owned, and I expected nothing less from a car marketed as a sports car.

    A state that was once identified as “Camry California”, the Model Y exceeding Camry sales in the state is a big enough deal to include that data to qualify an article that describes all Tesla owners.

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      It’s consistent with the idea that mostly tech workers buy Teslas. It does not really sell to people outside this demographic.

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        Around me, I see lots of soccer moms driving them, and I wouldn’t say I live in a particularly affluent area. I do, however, live near a nuclear plant (11th largest in the world, in fact) and have relatively cheap electricity.

        Edit: fucking cry more, @Hypx

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            Til the middle class is considered “wealthy.” Maybe I should be more concerned about people like you screaming that we should eat the rich, since clearly your idea of wealth is based on your own socioeconomic standing and not actual numbers. Just like your understanding of EVs, actually! Hmm, a pattern emerges!

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    I for one am shocked.

    The only Tesla owner I know is a Musk-loving, ancap, STEM-bro who probably makes around $160k.

    As an engineer, I often find being surrounded by engineers to be exhausting lol

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      Yes. Teslas are pure fads. And the BEV is just a big greenwashing scam. It just replaces one unsustainable idea with another.

      Engineers are easily swayed by hype and propaganda just like everyone else.

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    This is true for me, I have an S.

    I’ll also never buy another tesla again but I’ll drive this until the wheels fall off. It’s 5 years old now.

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      Always refreshing to see somebody who owns one of these cars and hasn’t immediately forgotten all expectations of build quality from an automotive manufacturer. I’ve seen intelligent and analytical people just turn their brains off at the suggestion that these cars aren’t perfect, when the procedure for getting one repaired reads like it’s from Apple.

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      How is the battery holding up? All Tesla owners I know sold theirs before the 2 year mark worrying that they might need to replace the battery for the price of a new car, always sounded like a misconception to me.

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        Holding up fine. I’m about 7% degradation, 2018 over 80k miles on it. 100D. I’ve been very happy with it as far as anything goes. Never serviced, just a few things like lights that I needed replaced.

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        The thing gets me about the “$XX,000” battery replacement figure is that people are talking about the dealer quote for a battery replacement. If your vehicle is in warranty (and Tesla has an 8 year battery warranty), then the dealer replaces the battery for free. If it’s not under warranty anymore, there’s no reason to get your battery replaced at the dealer. Third party shops will do it for a fraction of the cost.

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    I always wanted a Tesla. I’m now in a position I could buy one comfortably, but now I have a spine and won’t.

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    I’m a white man who falls into that category, I’d never own a Tesla, they’re too fucking expensive. Maybe I’ll get an EV some day, but it won’t be a Tesla. For now, I’ll stick to my 6 year old car that still runs well and didn’t cost me a second mortgage.

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    In years past, I toyed with the idea of getting a Tesla, but they were always too pricy for me. As I’m approaching 10 years on my current vehicle and have a 50+ mile one-way commute for the first time in 15 years (one day a week, but still…), I’m wondering if replacement will be sooner or later. I’d like to go EV or at least hybrid, but I know that it won’t be a Tesla in any event.

    I did have a coworker several years ago who imported a Honda Fit EV from California. He was not exactly happy in the winter when he had to trade heat for distance. I imagine things are better with newer models.

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    IMHO Tesla is too unreliable. There are enough EVs available that are more reliable (and cheaper).

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      I just want an EV that is:

      -Reasonably priced.

      -User repairable/modifiable.

      -No stupid luxury gimmicks (fake “self driving” or “self parking”, 360° cameras for outside view, electronic locks that will most likely fail in a couple years, etc…)

      -NO FUCKING SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES like those stupid heated seats!!

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        Hyundai announced they’re not doing those stupid subscriptions, might be worth considering.

        Edit: more like making it free to use as long as you’re the legal owlet owner of the car, still better than the other manufacturers

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    The best deal is to lease the jeep wrangler 4xe plug in, they pass the 7500 onto the buyer and by lease end the battery is weakened so give the car back instead of paying 5k to replace the battery plus by lease end new battery tech will be here