Sanders says he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible ‘with an organization like Hamas’ | CNN Politics
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Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

  • CommanderM2192@lemmy.world
    418·
    8 months ago

    I’m sorry, but I think you forgot to read my post and any of the links I sarcastically provided. Let me just copy and paste it below for you. Just trying to help a smoothbrain tankie out since you don’t seem to understand the concepts of the international aid, ports, and land borders.

    So, who’s responsibility is it to feed them?

    Is it Egypt’s since they were the previous owners of the land before Israel took it in a war started by Egypt? How about the UN? It’s not like they literally have an entire organization whose sole purpose is to provide aid to the Palestinians.

    Oh? It’s solely Israel? Israel is solely responsible for the welfare of a people where the majority want to genocide them? Not Egypt or the UN? Not Hamas? Not the PLO? Only Israel?

    Either put some fucking pressure on your own country and the UN to step the fuck up and provide real aid, or fuck off.

    • idiomaddict@feddit.de
      82·
      8 months ago

      How about this: It’s solely unrwas responsibility, but anyone who specifically bombs unrwa resources has to take over fully?

      • mwguy@infosec.pub
        1·
        8 months ago

        How about this. It’s the responsibility of the government in charge, Hamas to consider the feeding and care of it’s citizens as a part of its war plan with its neighbors.

        • idiomaddict@feddit.de
          1·
          8 months ago

          Given that the plans that government arranged for are being thwarted by Israel, it seems they are taking steps to reassert their ability to feed their people. I don’t think that’s the best solution here, that Hamas keeps attacking Israel, so I’m looking elsewhere. If you’re content with the way Hamas handles things, by all means, leave them with no humanitarian support or other options.

          • mwguy@infosec.pub
            1·
            8 months ago

            I don’t think that’s the best solution here, that Hamas keeps attacking Israel, so I’m looking elsewhere.

            In normal warfare. When a siege shows that it’s has the ability to starve the populace if continued; it’s the duty of the seiged to surrender before their population starts to starve.

              • mwguy@infosec.pub
                1·
                8 months ago

                Honestly, they’re dying. Israel estimates they’ve killed 1/4th of their Army. And based on the things that they’re trying to smuggle in it (oxygen equipment) seems like they might have a significant amount of their forces stuck underground, caved in.

                • idiomaddict@feddit.de
                  1·
                  8 months ago

                  That either makes them fight more desperately or we wait a generation for the surviving Palestinians to grow up and start the fight anew.

                  We know how this goes, unless Israel makes huge concessions or starts killing even larger numbers of Palestinians

                  • mwguy@infosec.pub
                    1·
                    8 months ago

                    That army was just used offensively against Israel. It must be considered valid to fight it. Those fighters can choose to surrender.

      • CommanderM2192@lemmy.world
        39·
        8 months ago

        Personally, I think it’s the responsibility of the major powers in the UN. We all contributed to how fucked up this situation is. Even if we didn’t, it’d still be the right thing to do.

        I just point this shit out and troll because tankies want to try and put the blame on Israel and get triggered when anyone tries to put the blame on any other country by actually using logic and history. Regardless, providing aid is just the right thing to do and it’s the responsibility of the UNRWA to ensure their services aren’t used by terrorists to support their efforts to kill Israelis.