• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “shut up or my guy might lose”

    No. It’s a valid criticism. I don’t think I should have to set my concerns aside so the chosen moderate can stall progress for the next 4 years.

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      1 year ago

      So you’d rather watch the world burn than accept progress that’s slower than you demand. How noble.

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        1 year ago

        No, it’s not slower, it’s actively progressing the wrong direction. And having a president that’s happy to stall progress is tantamount to giving the GOP what they want next cycle.

        I’m tired of ‘Democrats’ pussyfutting around for 4-8 years only to watch what little they accomplished undone immediately, and the GOP making massive gains towards a fascist agenda no one wants.

        Give me a candidate with teeth or yes, watch it all burn down. Get the horror show over with. Anything less than relentless progress is a win for the party that’s willing to fight dirty for their bullshit agenda.

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          1 year ago

          Really. This is the wrong direction?

          What color is the sky on your world? It’s usually blue on mine.

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            1 year ago

            How much of that is executive order that can be undone day one for the next president?

            How much of that is wrapped up in a single spending bill?

            How much of that is limited in scope when we need large scale change? Protecting a forest with an EO is peanuts on the scale of action we actually need

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              1 year ago

              Fine. You show us how it’s done. Tell us how we pass good legislation in light of a hostile House of Representatives.

              Go on. We’ll wait.

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                1 year ago

                How did Johnson do it?

                If they wanted things to change, things would change. Nothing is moving because frankly they don’t want it to. They’re comfortable with the status quo and won’t finance candidates with actual liberal agendas. And they actively finance fucking psychopaths to make their own candidates look better

                The house is one of their own making.

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                  1 year ago

                  Bullshit. This House is the one Republicans built, when they threw aside all norms and decided to be open about their power grabs. They telegraphed it in the late 2000s, and now it’s become their new normal. Johnson was able to compromise with Republicans because back then Republicans were largely irrelevant and still followed the rules instead of making up bullshit precedents. They were still interested in governing.

                  So go on, tell me how you deal with modern politics when the other side isn’t willing to negotiate in good faith. Be honest about the world we live in.