• Pratai@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Socialism will never work in America. Period. End of story. It’s well documented and researched fact. It’s barely only ever worked in smaller nations with considerably smaller populations.

    This has been going on for years and for years the entire notion of a functioning socialist system in America has been proven to be a farce.

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      9 months ago

      What we need is to put a stop to the pursuit of infinite growth and the pursuit of endless profits. The capitalist class doesn’t want this because it would end their way of lives, they won’t let it happen, there’s no reason it wouldnt work.

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        9 months ago

        they won’t let it happen

        They are certainly incentivized to try to stop us. As long as we have a democracy we have a chance at enacting socialist policies. They wouldn’t be backing the Republican’s fascist takeover if they already had total power.

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          9 months ago

          I agree I just meant they use all their power against any socialist movements both domestic and abroad I used the term won’t let it happen as in won’t let it happen on their watch as they have largely been alowed to rule unopposed for over a century but it seems that from one generation to the next they have taken more and more from those at the bottom and it seems that they’re reaching the tipping point where their tower is starting to crumble. ✌️

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      It’s well documented and researched fact.

      This has been going on for years and for years the entire notion of a functioning socialist system in America has been proven to be a farce.

      Then show sources.

      It’s barely only ever worked in smaller nations with considerably smaller populations.

      This inherently contradicts your argument. There is no principle, that has been proven with any math or science, that says the inclusive institutions that make up social democracies elsewhere in the world do not scale to a country the size of the US.

      We’ve had numerous social programs over the years and economic regulations that are in line with socialist policies. Medicare, Obama Care, social security, and even things like public drinking fountains are all examples of this. We have laws on the books against monopolies and the government oversees corporate mergers. Unions used to be a powerful force for workers rights. While they are not full collective ownership of the means of the production, they are a step in the right direction and are in the middle of a resurgence thanks to Biden. Our society has already benefited from socialism despite people painstakingly refusing to acknowledge that.

      The idea that socialism cannot work in America is an internalized value people pick up from living in our neoliberal society. It has nothing to do with historical, political, or economic facts.