President Joe Biden gave a press conference on Thursday night after the release of a report from the special counsel, Robert Hur, who announced that Biden would not face charges over his handling of classified information from prior to his presidency.
No, because it’s super disingenuous to criticize Biden on it like Trump wouldn’t be way worse. We know Trump will yank all the funding from Ukraine and hand it over to Isreal. Sure Biden sucks, but like every other conversation on the subject, he’s better than the other option so we have to begrudgingly support him. The last time we tried to disagree with someone morally was Hillary and we spent 4 years dealing with Trump. If my options are 1 guy who opposes 1 genocide and 1 guy who supports 2 then I guess I’ll pick the guy opposing one. I’d rather have no genocides, but here we are
No, because it’s super disingenuous to criticize Biden on it like Trump wouldn’t be way worse.
Yeah, this is my basic problem with Lemmy on this. Biden’s actions are largely the result of American political realities and trump would be way worse. Dangerously so.
Surely just because someone else would be worse, doesn’t mean you can’t criticize the current leader. That’s a very slippery slope if you go down that path.
Sure but that’s our point. We can sit here discussing the minutia of Biden and what little things he may or may not be doing correctly, meanwhile Trump supporters hear him say “I’ll be a dictator day 1” and get a boner so hard they need to call their doctor. We made this mistake by being balanced about our candidate before and we saw where it got us. I’d like to hear you suggest a realistically better choice for the average American than to support Biden continuing to be milquetoast
I don’t have an answer for you on that (non-US), but if the plan is to pretend the current leader makes no mistakes because the opposition is worse… that’s not going to be pretty 10 years down the track. Granted, I appreciate that alternative now is also not pretty.
My suggestion is there needs to be some serious cultural and political change before America shits the bed and becomes a fucking hot mess. Now whether that is realistic is something completely different.
The fact were in 2024 and half of your country is effectively promoting rape and refusing care for 50% of your population (females) is absolutely wild to me. So I don’t know your culture enough to provide a realistic alternative. But coming from a country that sees America as an Ally, I hope the country gets its shit together sooner rather than later.
No, because it’s super disingenuous to criticize Biden on it like Trump wouldn’t be way worse. We know Trump will yank all the funding from Ukraine and hand it over to Isreal. Sure Biden sucks, but like every other conversation on the subject, he’s better than the other option so we have to begrudgingly support him. The last time we tried to disagree with someone morally was Hillary and we spent 4 years dealing with Trump. If my options are 1 guy who opposes 1 genocide and 1 guy who supports 2 then I guess I’ll pick the guy opposing one. I’d rather have no genocides, but here we are
Yeah, this is my basic problem with Lemmy on this. Biden’s actions are largely the result of American political realities and trump would be way worse. Dangerously so.
Surely just because someone else would be worse, doesn’t mean you can’t criticize the current leader. That’s a very slippery slope if you go down that path.
Sure but that’s our point. We can sit here discussing the minutia of Biden and what little things he may or may not be doing correctly, meanwhile Trump supporters hear him say “I’ll be a dictator day 1” and get a boner so hard they need to call their doctor. We made this mistake by being balanced about our candidate before and we saw where it got us. I’d like to hear you suggest a realistically better choice for the average American than to support Biden continuing to be milquetoast
I don’t have an answer for you on that (non-US), but if the plan is to pretend the current leader makes no mistakes because the opposition is worse… that’s not going to be pretty 10 years down the track. Granted, I appreciate that alternative now is also not pretty.
Again I understand and agree with you, but I ask: what do you suggest as a realistic alternative?
My suggestion is there needs to be some serious cultural and political change before America shits the bed and becomes a fucking hot mess. Now whether that is realistic is something completely different.
The fact were in 2024 and half of your country is effectively promoting rape and refusing care for 50% of your population (females) is absolutely wild to me. So I don’t know your culture enough to provide a realistic alternative. But coming from a country that sees America as an Ally, I hope the country gets its shit together sooner rather than later.
A very “you’re with us or against us” mentality