Yeah, I’m not sure why a Democratic politician would waste their time trying to appease leftists or try to play hard-ball. They already have registered Democrats in the bag – they need to appeal to Independents and traditionally conservative voters, because those are the ones that are going to be deciding elections, or at least the upcoming presidential election.
It’s advantageous to show as much aggressively moderate, bipartisan, and hawkish behavior right now, because that is exactly what reminds those voters of the old republican party, pre Trump. Hell, that’s what Biden is all about. And it’s gonna piss off leftists, especially on this site (and rightfully so), but what are we gonna do? Vote for Trump?
It’s unfortunate, but the Democratic party has had to shift to the right in order to accommodate the extremism of Trump and his followers. Here’s hoping we’ll see a shift to the left if Republicans can somehow take hold of their own party, but we’ll see.
I’m not even sure what that is supposed to mean. All I said was Democrats strategy is to appease swing voters, which it is. Look, Biden is having trouble messaging on the genocide in Palestine right now because he’s in an election year trying to be as popular to swing voters and conservatives as possible right now. If it weren’t an election year, I bet we’d be seeing stronger pushback from the US toward Israels atrocities.
Also look at the killed border deal. That was a pretty conservative bill that was about to be passed until Trump nuked it. Democrats are able to use that debacle against the Republicans saying “We want to govern and fix problems, you want to use those problems for political gain,” but in the end, it was still a pretty conservative bill they were about to pass. Democrats messaging for the next 9 months is going to all be centered around the word “reasonable.”
I think your stance might be off. The groundswell of voters doesn’t come from those between modern day dems and gop. It’s actually probably left of current dems. People want better salaries and health care. Oh and combating climate change. Court folks 18-35 and they’ll crush them.
I think you’re right in that the majority of people want better salaries and healthcare, enshrined abortion rights, etc, athough I don’t think I’m understanding your last sentence.
But I don’t think the “groundswell” of voters is left of democrats in the way you’re saying, and my comments weren’t really my “stance,” they’re just what is happening in politics right now. I mean, it is true that if not enough leftists come out to vote for Biden, it could be trouble for him, but what we’re seeing right now from polls is that it’s the independents and the on-the-fence voters that Biden needs to capture, and we’re seeing him actively trying to thread the needle on topics such as Israel/Palestine.
Yeah, I’m not sure why a Democratic politician would waste their time trying to appease leftists or try to play hard-ball. They already have registered Democrats in the bag – they need to appeal to Independents and traditionally conservative voters, because those are the ones that are going to be deciding elections, or at least the upcoming presidential election.
It’s advantageous to show as much aggressively moderate, bipartisan, and hawkish behavior right now, because that is exactly what reminds those voters of the old republican party, pre Trump. Hell, that’s what Biden is all about. And it’s gonna piss off leftists, especially on this site (and rightfully so), but what are we gonna do? Vote for Trump?
It’s unfortunate, but the Democratic party has had to shift to the right in order to accommodate the extremism of Trump and his followers. Here’s hoping we’ll see a shift to the left if Republicans can somehow take hold of their own party, but we’ll see.
You’re why no one will bother voting in 2028.
I’m not even sure what that is supposed to mean. All I said was Democrats strategy is to appease swing voters, which it is. Look, Biden is having trouble messaging on the genocide in Palestine right now because he’s in an election year trying to be as popular to swing voters and conservatives as possible right now. If it weren’t an election year, I bet we’d be seeing stronger pushback from the US toward Israels atrocities.
Also look at the killed border deal. That was a pretty conservative bill that was about to be passed until Trump nuked it. Democrats are able to use that debacle against the Republicans saying “We want to govern and fix problems, you want to use those problems for political gain,” but in the end, it was still a pretty conservative bill they were about to pass. Democrats messaging for the next 9 months is going to all be centered around the word “reasonable.”
I think your stance might be off. The groundswell of voters doesn’t come from those between modern day dems and gop. It’s actually probably left of current dems. People want better salaries and health care. Oh and combating climate change. Court folks 18-35 and they’ll crush them.
I think you’re right in that the majority of people want better salaries and healthcare, enshrined abortion rights, etc, athough I don’t think I’m understanding your last sentence.
But I don’t think the “groundswell” of voters is left of democrats in the way you’re saying, and my comments weren’t really my “stance,” they’re just what is happening in politics right now. I mean, it is true that if not enough leftists come out to vote for Biden, it could be trouble for him, but what we’re seeing right now from polls is that it’s the independents and the on-the-fence voters that Biden needs to capture, and we’re seeing him actively trying to thread the needle on topics such as Israel/Palestine.
It’s funny, there was an episode on NPR politics podcast that came out today that pretty much outlined exactly what I’m talking about: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Lohgbw0EgGSRtIcc3edcM?si=P-w1lelBRBmTNzMShZ4KwA
I’ll check it out