Texas state police officers separated migrant families along the border with Mexico by detaining fathers on trespassing charges and turning over mothers and children to federal officials, the state Department of Public Safety said Thursday.

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    1 year ago

    they’re illegal aliens - not migrants.

    entering the country outside of an approved border crossing = illegal. attempting to emigrate by illegally crossing the border into another country gets you locked up and deported back to your country of origin. non-citizens who illegally enter the country have no rights in the country they’re illegally entering.

    there are perfectly legal methods of obtaining a valid visa or other immigration documentation. if you choose to ignore that and illegally enter the country you’re going to end up in a cage.

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      Bruh, try to understand this: The people who are facing dehydration, starvation, and heat stroke crossing the desert are not rich people. There are legal methods of immigrating to the US, if you have money. These are poor, desperate people. Even people who immigrate illegally with a little bit of money tend to favor flying in legally and letting their visa expire…not potentially dying while crossing the desert on the way.

      Think about it, no matter how bad shit gets in the United States (whether R or D in charge), the only people who actually leave the US are people with means. Everyone else toughs it out, because they can’t afford other options. Shit never gets bad enough here for poor people to get up and leave.

      Where these people are coming from, their lives are literally so fucking bad, that it doesn’t matter that they have no money to their name - they have to get out. They see no other options. Leaving and facing the US Border Patrol (or worse, Piss Baby Greg Abbotts personal army) is legitimately preferable to what they’re leaving behind.

      Let’s treat them like human beings. Let’s try showing some goddamned compassion.

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        For many of them, their whole family are literally marked for death because they come from countries like Honduras, which are run by criminal gangs. So risking all they risk to come for America? They aren’t just coming for themselves, they’re coming to save their entire family’s lives. And we repay them by separating those families when they get here. It’s shameful.

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        why cant they go south? several South American countries are doing pretty well. why do they need to flood our borders, and do it illegally?

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          Who’s it hurting? The more people we educate and bring up, the more capable at all levels our country becomes.

          We’re a country of both laws and compassion, and we’re all team human.

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            unwilling to answer the questions, eh? figures.

            it’s not America’s job to save everyone. it’s a waste of our tax dollars to be compassionate.

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              I come from a country that believes in second chances, taking care of your neighbors and paying it forward. That country’s America.

              If you don’t like it, you can get out.

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                fortunately, a rapidly diminishing part of the country agrees with that nonsense

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                  Lol doesn’t seem like it.

                  Congratulations on outting yourself as a sociopath. You’ll have all the fake friends in the world waiting to stab you in the back, and live in a true hell of your own making. Enjoy!

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          Ever hear of a little thing called the Darién Gap? Geographically impossible to head South America from Latin America on foot.

          As a Christian nation, I think America ought to be welcoming these people and showing them good Christian mercy.

          [Matthew 25:31-46 KJV]

          31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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          You tried to make a blanket statement that they are all illegal when entering surreptitiously is a valid way of making an asylum claim.

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      there are perfectly legal methods of obtaining a valid visa or other immigration documentation.

      Extremely difficult legal methods that rarely work out, especially if you’re poor and not from Europe.

      You might as well just say, “only rich people should be allowed to emigrate.”