Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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    3 days ago

    Two words: brokered convention.

    I almost wonder if Biden’s staff suggested this super early pre-convention debate so he would be forced to acknowledge he needs to step down. I can’t see any other explanation.

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      3 days ago

      The right thing to do would be for Biden to step down. The smart thing to do would be a brokered convention. Neither will happen. This is a disaster.

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        3 days ago

        There’s about six weeks to the convention. That’s enough time but barely. Harris will want to take the top spot, and maybe she should, but Newsome is the one that could beat Trump, maybe.

        What a disaster.

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            19 hours ago

            I think Whitmer is the better choice. It locks up Wisconsin and brings in the woman vote. It’s also an aspirational vote, like Obama was in 2008.

            That didn’t help Clinton, obviously, but Whitmer is no Clinton (in a good way).

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      3 days ago

      That would be an interesting outcome. I doubt it, but if it were to happen, I don’t think it would have been planned, just a panic reaction.