• AppleTea@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    huh, reminds me of Hillary’s campaign aiding Trump during the republican primaries

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      4 months ago

      Well, that’s because Trump was a softball candidate who stood no chance at winning and only acted as a spoiler candidate in relation to other, actual potential Republican candidates.

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        4 months ago

        What’s frustrating is that Mrs Clinton was always a disliked candidate, but then a well liked politician. Her poking before her senate election was bad, then great once elected.

        The Democratic Party was too stupid to recognize that they need a popular Candidate not just a popular politician.

        Same thing is happening with Biden to some extent. He’s gotten a lot done (even with the split congress), but if he can’t get people fired up to vote we’re in danger of getting fucked again.

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          The issue is also that he’s gotten a lot done that people do not like or not done enough in some ways. They don’t think he pushed for enough support for Ukraine. Or they don’t like how he handled the late 2022 railway workers strike. Or they don’t like how he’s handling Israel’s invasion of Palestine. And then there’s the fact that he’s the face of mainstream, neoliberal Democrats, who are just generally disliked by more progressive members of the party for seeming to never get things done (like codifying Roe v. Wade into law when they had the chance) and for being so arrogant that they fumble the ball constantly (like with the DNC and Clinton thinking Trump was a fucking pushover and then letting him get elected and functionally give the RNC the Supreme Court for the next 30 years). People are frustrated with Biden because they’re frustrated with the party, and Biden is the party in a very real way.

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            4 months ago

            He’s by far done more good than bad. Even the railway workers were resolved in the end (without a shutdown that would have fucked the inflation greed economy even more).

            Congress is behind the rest of your points, and Israel/Palestine is a no-win situation for the election. There’s a good chance it was manufactured by a combination of Russia->Iran->Hamas triggering i, then Netanyahu being a bigger dick when he found out the cruel IDF reaction makes Biden look bad too.

            I know it’s a total conspiracy theory, but the Israel/Palestine war has had an awful lot of shady boosting in social media and is having an outsized part of the conversation on the left when you consider the far more cruel shit a Trump win would inflict.

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              He’s by far done more good than bad. Even the railway workers were resolved in the end (without a shutdown that would have fucked the inflation greed economy even more).

              The issue is that by doing this he showed his hand. A strike has two sides to it: the side of the workers and the side of the bosses. Biden’s interference, by executive order, shows which side he’s on. It’s very telling to me that we live in a country where Biden can make it illegal for thousands of people to go on strike, but he doesn’t have the power to force a single corporation to take the deal that’s on the table from their employees. Or if he does, he elects not to do that. Either way, a union has one single recourse against the company it works for: striking. If that’s suddenly off the table, you are effectively toothless in negotiations. Also, it’s fascinating you can say to thousands of people “oh, you don’t want to work anymore? Well, guess what? You have to.” Last time I checked, that’s functionally indentured servitude, if not outright slavery.

              There’s a good chance it was manufactured by a combination of Russia->Iran->Hamas triggering i

              Not every single thing is a plan by Russia to destabilize the Western world. This conflict had been ongoing for decades. Is this particular escalation of it bad timing? Sure, but it was also a ticking clock.