I posted this question on Reddit a while ago and it was an interesting discussion so I wanted to hear what Lemmings think.

It’s common for religious people to be against the above mentioned things due to their beliefs, but how common is it for atheists to be against them? What reasons would they have? How would they base their opinion if there was no belief system/religion to rely on?

I’m not trying to provoke or insult anybody with this question, and I don’t wish for people to hate on each other’s beliefs. I just think this is an interesting concept to think about.

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    1 year ago

    My elderly father would probably catch on fire if he steps into a church. But he shares basically all social values with hardcore Christians.

    You can be a non believer, that was raised in a certain belief system and as such share their shitty values. I would imagine this is much more common with older atheists/agnostics/don’t-care-about-religion,-only-myselfionists

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      I wonder what is the excuse of non religious people that are against homosexuality.

      At least religious people have the excuse that a mighty superman god person said that homosexuality was wrong.

      Do non religious people just hate homosexuality for the sake of hating it?

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        There’s a fairly easy argument to be made that since gay people can’t reproduce, it’s not natural.

        This is not my pov, but it’s an easy argument.

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        I’m fairly certain he’s against it due to his upbringing and never bothering to question his “beliefs” on the topic.

        “Homosexuality is weird and wrong” (and it makes me doubt my own sexuality and masculinity) is probably the only driver behind it.

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      Yeah I think a good example is Jordan Peterson - AFAIK he’s an athiest. And he’s a hard-core conservative. What i found interesting is I remember his debate with Zizek and he was visibly shaken / nearly brought to tears when Zizek did his bit about Christianity being the most atheistic religion.

      Where Christ says on the cross “Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani?” -> “father why have you forsaken me”

      God himself in human form came down to Earth and in his moment of torment lost faith. Zizek argues this is quite a radical thing and this is why Christianity is the most atheist religion. I think it is a bit profound although you never know with Zizek. He says a lot of cool sounding stuff but sometimes mainly to shock.