One good thing doesn’t even outweigh one bad one. What do you call someone who tells 99 truths and one lie?
A liar.
It’s the same here; there’s an asymmetry between doing what’s right and betraying someone’s trust. When Mozilla can demonstrate consistent integrity, maybe I’ll stop using a fork.
Im glad you decided to copy-paste an overly padded ream of text instead of forming your own opinion, but sure.
P.2
All ai models used in firefox currently are fully open source.
P.4
Those models are also ran completely locally.
That linked blog refers to an OPT-IN experiment that lets you choose what model you want to use, including non-privacy respecting ones, but this is left up to the user.
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The two ai features currently in firefox are alt-text generation for blind people and privacy-respecting page translation, i think youd have a hard time justifying why those arent useful.
the comment is going “grrr ai” i was pointing out that the ai features currently in firefox (translation and alt-text) are local and privacy respecting. You cant just ignore things that dont fit your opinion.
second, that chatbot thing you’re crying about is OPT IN AND only in nightly, let you choose any chatbot available online, not just the ones they named, and on top of that it most likely will never make it into a non-nightly release, because theyve decided to make that kind of ai feature an extension instead.
Also, when i say that a model is open source, i am referring to the binary being downloadable and the model weights being freely available.
You clearly saw the word “ai” and decided that mozilla was as bad as google, without looking into it at all.
No, it’s in Firefox 130. I know this because I use Firefox.
it’s in the “labs” section, its disingenuous to imply it isnt. I was wrong to say its only in nightly, but its still an opt-in experimental feature.
Also, truncating my arguments in quotes to make me look stupid and trying to exclude any facts you dont like is a dick move, and you know it, i’m not going to respond to the rest of this because you are clearly not arguing in good faith.
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One good thing doesn’t even outweigh one bad one. What do you call someone who tells 99 truths and one lie?
A liar.
It’s the same here; there’s an asymmetry between doing what’s right and betraying someone’s trust. When Mozilla can demonstrate consistent integrity, maybe I’ll stop using a fork.
How did they betray you or their mission?
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Im glad you decided to copy-paste an overly padded ream of text instead of forming your own opinion, but sure.
P.2 All ai models used in firefox currently are fully open source.
P.4 Those models are also ran completely locally. That linked blog refers to an OPT-IN experiment that lets you choose what model you want to use, including non-privacy respecting ones, but this is left up to the user.
P.10 The two ai features currently in firefox are alt-text generation for blind people and privacy-respecting page translation, i think youd have a hard time justifying why those arent useful.
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the comment is going “grrr ai” i was pointing out that the ai features currently in firefox (translation and alt-text) are local and privacy respecting. You cant just ignore things that dont fit your opinion.
second, that chatbot thing you’re crying about is OPT IN AND only in nightly, let you choose any chatbot available online, not just the ones they named, and on top of that it most likely will never make it into a non-nightly release, because theyve decided to make that kind of ai feature an extension instead.
Also, when i say that a model is open source, i am referring to the binary being downloadable and the model weights being freely available.
You clearly saw the word “ai” and decided that mozilla was as bad as google, without looking into it at all.
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it’s in the “labs” section, its disingenuous to imply it isnt. I was wrong to say its only in nightly, but its still an opt-in experimental feature.
Also, truncating my arguments in quotes to make me look stupid and trying to exclude any facts you dont like is a dick move, and you know it, i’m not going to respond to the rest of this because you are clearly not arguing in good faith.