Vice President Kamala Harris’ allies are particularly annoyed by the California governor’s move into the spotlight ahead of a possible 2028 Democratic nomination fight.

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      Or do, and make him look foolish. I don’t know much about Newsom, but Desantis is a terrible public speaker.

      (Not that it stopped 45, I guess…)

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        I’d disagree about 45. Maybe he was an idiot, but he could say stupid shit and fluster his debate opponents. Maybe the 2016 primary opponents were a low bar, but still…

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    We don’t need to give these fascist fucks like Desantis a platform. Their opinions aren’t valid at this point.

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      No, we need to properly destroy the foundation they stand on. Why do these supposed freedom-loving individuals fall for the rhetoric of fascists? Why is it that it only took a couple generations to forget how badly fascism affected our world?

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    I think it’s just that Newsom know he can trounce DeSantis and make a fool of him on national TV, in the republican media backyard of FoxNews. I have no doubt he plans on running president, but I don’t think he’d be dumb enough to do it in 2024. I don’t imagine he’s well liked enough around the rest of the country.

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      I think it’s just that Newsom know he can trounce DeSantis and make a fool of him on national TV…

      But thats just not how modern debates work. Each side comes away announcing they’ve won and ‘owned’ the other one. This gets repeated in the respective echo chambers.

      I think D’s should be debating one another right now. We need a national dialogue on where the left and the progressive project of the previous 8 years is going.

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      DeSantis just being DeSantis on TV is enough to make a fool out of himself, he really doesn’t need any outside help.

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    the fact this “debate” is going to be on FOX means FOX will do everythign in their power to trip Newsome up while elevating DeSantis, because that’s who those rat fuckers are, they will cheat him for time, they will skew questions only DeSantis will have the advantage on, they will pull out all the underhanded tactics they can, without a care in the world if they’re being perceived as running a fair “debate” because the monster who watch FOX want blood. it’s going to be a circus.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Some Biden advisers have complained privately that the planned debate, which Fox News host Sean Hannity would moderate, could make voters think Newsom is running a shadow 2024 campaign at a time when most Democrats say they’d prefer a different candidate at the top of the ticket.

    They also argue that it could elevate DeSantis, whom White House advisers initially perceived as a greater threat to Biden’s re-election hopes than the GOP front-runner, former President Donald Trump.

    Newsom is expected to be a top surrogate for Biden’s campaign at the second Republican presidential primary debate in Simi Valley, California, in September, said a Democratic aide familiar with the plans.

    Just as some Biden advisers are irked by Newsom’s move, others see potential benefit in a high-profile Democrat’s defending his record and agenda against a prominent Republican hopeful.

    DeSantis exchanged barbs with Harris this summer as she harshly criticized a state education mandate to teach Florida schoolchildren about the “benefits” of slavery.

    While the two governors tussle over the rules and timing of a debate — it could happen this fall, possibly in November — DeSantis is trying to gain traction in his uphill fight to beat Trump for the 2024 GOP nomination.


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    Honest truth of the matter is he’d make a far better President than she would, she’s just “there” as VP, but hasn’t really done anything but say “let me be clear, the president …”, no bold moves, no signature action, just a whole lot of nothing, and that’s precisely what her job is, but President … not if I have the choice between her and Governor Newsome, no way now how Jack

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      Kamala Harris sucks. Does anyone really consider Harris a POTUS contender besides maybe herself? She’s stiff and boring as a figurehead, and infuriating when I remember how she built most of her career. I sincerely hope she just goes away by 2028.