• punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.net
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    10 months ago

    Hey just wondering why you are asking for citations without providing any of your own? Because besides your own opinions and experiences you dont seem to provide any citations to back up your statements.

    And just so you know, you can try to find citations for claims made in the comic on you own. Or do you want to do some Executive Function Theft and let someone else do the work?

    Edit: Instead of reading that long ass response I looked for scientific stuff myself and found this in a short amount of time:

    Mental Labor: A Systematic Literature Review on the Cognitive Dimension of Unpaid Work Within the Household and Childcare

    Predominantly, the articles show that women perform the larger proportion of mental labor, especially when it comes to childcare and parenting decisions.

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      10 months ago

      Hey just wondering why you are asking for citations without providing any of your own?

      I did not make any broad claims about all individuals of a group, I explicitly made sure all my statements were clearly outlined as anecdotes and not to be taken as something to apply to all individuals of a group.

      Note my use of “from what I have seen” at the start of my statement, which sets that everything following it is an anecdote and not to be mistaken for anything else.

      The comic largely sticks to anecdote for most of its duration, but it pulls what I like to call “The Joe Rogan Move” halfway through, where sandwiched in the middle of two separate anecdotal statements, is a small but very abrupt statement of fact, that does not get supported by any citations or further info.

      Its a mechanism a lot of unsavory individuals (like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate, who I consider to be pretty shitty for doing this, dont mistake me for liking these people, the term is not a compliment), use to sort of wedge a fact in between a bunch of agreeable/empathetic anecdotes.

      You are nodding your head along to their anecdotal story, thinking “Yeah I can empathize with this” and then they shove this sudden factoid in there, then quickly shift to another agreeable anecdote, quickly skimming past that prior factoid without lingering on it. It’s quick and sudden, but it’s shady as fuck.

      In the comic, the factoid that was “wedged” in was this statement:

      The mental load is almost completely born by women

      Note this is NOT made in any context of “from my experience” or “When you do this, that happens” or “Many women report that” or any other such anecdotal context…

      It is presented as a concrete factoid, as if speaking from a point of authority.

      And that would be fine if it had a citation, a factual statement like that needs to have some kind of citation. That specific line should have some kind of facts backing it up. What’s the source for that line? What do you mean “almost completely”, by how much of a margin? How do you even measure that? What? Did you get this info from some sort of study or paper on the topic? Where is this fact coming from?

      Then the comic very quickly shifts back to anecdote on the very next panel, by going “So while most heterosexual men I know say that…”

      See how that little tiny factoid got sort of subtly wedged right in there, and because the story on each “side” of it is agreeable, it just sort of slips past the radar?

      Thats the shit that I am calling out. That is problematic and I don’t give a fuck if you are a loser like Andrew Tate trying to lure young men into mysoginistic views/lifestyles, or if you are a feminist blog trying to spread awareness about mental load…

      Cite. Your. Facts. Always.