Yep. And if not now, when?

Yeah… I’m not convinced. After this election, I think the answer is less “it takes everyone” or “it takes all kinds” and more “here’s evidence there are quite a lot of people we could do without”.

Edit: and a lot of the people we can do without are ostensibly lefties. You want to call maga folks stupid for being single issue voters, then you can’t be a single issue “conscious objector”. I hope if you didn’t vote for Harris you get the rough side of the next two years for being a magnum toolbag.

Edit 2: all you .ml shitbirds can also lick an outlet as far as I’m concerned

And how wild would that be? Biden shows up, shakes Trump’s hand, then garrotes him. What happens next?

The lucky thing is people are going to get punished for being stupid. It won’t teach anything, but here we are.

How can you NOT appear to talk down to someone who is Trump vocabulary / concept or less about issues that are actually complex and nuanced? Trump can talk out of both sides of his mouth to different groups with radically conflicting messages tuned to the audience. If anyone did that while trying to cater to the left, you would be immediately strung up for being duplicitous while at the same time being excoriated for being vague and nonspecific with your plans. No “concepts of a plan” are going to fly for someone running outside the Republican party.

Trump is basically bowling with the gutter guards up and it’s because the Republican electorate is angry and not exactly… uh… discerning when it comes to complex or academic issues.

Probably a lot less safe (and harder to aim) if you don’t use the truck. Also unlikely they get all the way down unless you mine it in wheel shapes (increasing labor and also, luckily, danger).

If you voted for trump and AOC you need to make sure you never leave home without your fucking helmet on. Fuck.

Wouldn’t that be great, and I hope you get the chance to vote for it if such a candidate emerges. The extra gerrymandering and crippling of voter rights or just, you know, suspension of elections between now and then may have something to say about it though.

Trump is not doing anything but saying “I’ll do this! And I’ll do that! And I’m the best at this!” And as long as he says enough bullshit all the voters say “of course he lies and says what he needs to say to get elected, but not about my thing!” Even if every week he contradicts the last thing he says.

Short memories, unsophisticated voters, and single issue voting mean this strategy will basically always work. Remember, they have voters with single issue in, and you (or at least many in this thread or on Lemmy) are single issue out. Maybe well meaning, but functionally not a particularly smarter approach to getting the best available leader. It’s all “Fuck you, me!” and take the rest of us with you.

How many people to knock down a fox News building by force?

Right. Need to support everyone, universal healthcare, universal basic income, without religion, no with religion, with feminism, with support for men’s rights, with support for immigration, not too much support for immigration, with support for small businesses, without enabling corporate America, and ranked choice voting, and younger people, more minorities, elect a woman, with more communism, no, more socialism, with consequences for the right, with unity for all and put the past behind us etc etc etc.

We get Trump because some entitled fuckers from every. single. camp. (often with conflicting interests) say “earn MY vote” or go to hell. The straight white cis bible thumping camp is voting as a bloc all the time. This is why D can’t get anything done: there is no sparkling unicorn candidate. Sometimes a little better is all you get. Lefties complain about people on the right being single issue voters, then turn around and single issue don’t vote.

Thanks for the nut punch of a president.

Vote swapping is a thing you know. No reason to punch everyone in the nuts and double-down fuck your cause of you can vote the least worst option and I’ll vote your 3rd party in my solid red dumpster state.

As an American, you’re right. I guess Trump won’t see consequences, but maybe the country will. And MAYBE voters / non voters will learn something.

In a very real sense the money doesn’t even exist. It’s the worth of their holdings… Which for some reason they can often borrow against… that adds the extra 2 or 3 zeros.

It sounds like you don’t have to make ANY choices which must be pretty nice: it certainly makes it easy for you to judge other people!

I will absolutely take the easy road on getting non-food items we need twice a month to spend time with my kids and my wife. I would rather amazon than Alibaba, and I would rather do either than give up an hour of my time to shop something dumb like super glue with two kids under four.

I am also doing the best I can, and I’m sure you mean well, but you sure sound like an officious dickbag.

I don’t do it for the money, but it helps.

I said I would always correct people after I defended. Almost 10 years later I never do. Best of luck with the eternal annoyance!

My voting no?

It’s not fun and it’s not surprising. Billionaires are generally cancerous and they own a lot of shit. If you can avoid them all, more power to you. I guess it’ll be my fault if trump gets elected.

I’m not flexing. It’s a fact. Everybody makes choices and I am making mine. Do you own a car? And if you do, do you put gas in it, earth-raping heathen? Do you water your lawn? Have a gas lawnmower? How about solar panels? You ever take a bath instead of a gallon shower? Buy electronics sourced from countries with weak labor laws? How about sleeping with a fan on at night or participate in wish recycling without consulting your local center?

I’m sure if we dig enough you’re shitty in some way too, yo. Maybe don’t be a supercilious dirt hat.

Counter argument: no.

For sure Amazon is predatory. For sure the services are overpriced. For sure they are killing Mom and Pop stores.

But you know what? I shop there for the same reason I shop at a Meijer or a Target or a Payless. Everything I want, one place, unified customer service, and it just shows up at my door. Probably 80% of my purchases are grocery delivery from Meijer and Amazon for basically everything else. Returns are no questions asked, service is fast, and selection is great, I just try not to buy amazon basics if I can help it.

Shipt, Uber whatever, GrubHub, etc etc delivery services that are supposed to solve the same problem are all fucking garbage. For sure I’m a corporate sellout, but I have a shitload of time to spend with my kids and my wife instead of fucking around with other services or driving around town and I’m not sorry about it 🤷

Edit: and with prime I got ad free movies, in home delivery, faster shipping, audible, and who knows what else besides. I won’t shop at Walmart so I’m probably a hypocrite, but I’m a hypocrite who is happy with the service for the money.