But the explanation and Ramirez’s promise to educate himself on the use of AI wasn’t enough, and the judge chided him for not doing his research before filing. “It is abundantly clear that Mr. Ramirez did not make the requisite reasonable inquiry into the law. Had he expended even minimal effort to do so, he would have discovered that the AI-generated cases do not exist. That the AI-generated excerpts appeared valid to Mr. Ramirez does not relieve him of his duty to conduct a reasonable inquiry,” Judge Dinsmore continued, before recommending that Ramirez be sanctioned for $15,000.

Falling victim to this a year or more after the first guy made headlines for the same is just stupidity.

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    a lie is a statement that the speaker knows to be wrong. wouldnt claiming that AIs can lie imply cognition on their part?

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      I’ve had this lengthy discussion before. Some people define a lie as an untrue statement, while others additionally require intent to deceive.

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        I would fall into the latter category. Lots of people are earnestly wrong without being liars.

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          Me, too. But it also means when some people say “that’s a lie” they’re not accusing you of anything, just remarking you’re wrong. And that can lead to misunderstandings.

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            Yep. Those people are obviously “liars,” since they are using an uncommon colloquial definition. 😉

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        The latter is the actual definition. Some people not knowing what words mean isnt an argument

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          Sure it is. You can define language all you want, the goal is to communicate with each other. The definition follows usage, not the other way around. Just look up the current definition for literally…

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        You can specifically tell an ai to lie and deceive though, and it will…

        This was just in the news today… although the headline says that the ai become psychopathic, they just told the ai to be immoral or something

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          Every time an AI ever does anything newsworthy just because it’s obeying it’s prompt.

          It’s like the people that claim the AI can replicate itself, yeah if you tell it to. If you don’t give an AI any instructions it’ll sit there and do nothing.

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      AI is just stringing words together that are statistically likely to appear near each other. It’s a giant complex statistical model but it has no awareness of truth or lying

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      AIs can generate false statements. It doesn’t require a set of beliefs, it merely requires a set of input.

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        A false statement would be me saying that the color of a light that I cannot see and have never seen that is currently red is actually green without knowing. I am just as easily probably right as I am probably wrong, statistics are involved.

        A lie would be me knowing that the color of a light that I am currently looking at is currently red and saying that it is actually green. No statistics, I’ve done this intentionally and the only outcome of my decision to act was that I spoke a falsehood.

        AIs can generate false statements, yes, but they are not capable of lying. Lying requires cognition, which LLMs are, by their own admission and by the admission of the companies developing them, at the very least not currently capable of, and personally I believe that it’s likely that LLMs never will be.

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      Me: I want you to lie to me about something.

      ChatGPT: Alright—did you know that Amazon originally started as a submarine sandwich delivery service before pivoting to books? Jeff Bezos realized that selling hoagies online wasn’t scalable, so he switched to literature instead.