I just realised, I can’t post anything on lemmy.ml

So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there’s a new moderator.

All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned

  • bouh@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    In my country we have antifa for antifascists. Are you here some kind of anti-tankies? Because I see far, far more posts about antitankies fighting supposed tankies than I see people fighting fascists.

    • ᚲᛇᛚ᛫ᛞᚨᛞᛁ@reddthat.com
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      10 months ago

      Tankies wpuld literally support the reincarnation of hitler if he said “america bad” they worship genocidal dictators on the sole grounds they oppose America. They hold literally no leftists values. They just like authority

      • bouh@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Thing is, I’ve never seen a tankie. I’ve already talked to many fascists here on lemmy though.

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          10 months ago

          Depends on what subs/instances you frequent. Since the reddit migration brought a lot of liberals and centrists to lemmy, many of the tankie types have been drowned out by sheer numbers and have retreated to hexbear and lemmygrad etc.

          However, there’s also a decent number of fasicsts and neocons who came from reddit and are all over exploding heads, shitjustworks etc

          I don’t really see those users much because I don’t frequent their spaces. I tend to be in more leftist spaces so I see more tankies.

          And of course there was that one disastrous week or so where we gave federation with hexbear a chance and they just flung tankie shit everywhere.

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      10 months ago

      In the US, antifa vs. fascists is the actual conflict bubbling up in real life. Only online do people care about tankies. They’re a test for moderation and decentralization so people can keep them from being disruptive, not a real concern for freedom of expression. Critical support for Russia’s invasion (or disruption of support for Ukraine) is way more likely to come from the alt-right fascists than pseudo-left online tankies.

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      10 months ago

      That’s because we’re on .world and the main tankie instances are blocked. OP is talking about leaks into other instances. It’s a bad faith argument. Fuck tankies.

    • unnecessarygoat@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      it’s probably because most instances have defederated with ‘tankie’ instances like lemmygrad or hexbear, so all you really see is ragebait screenshots of tankies saying stupid things. although most of these posts seem to be coming from one user

      • bouh@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        The only posts I see about tankies are from anti-tankies.

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          10 months ago

          Yes, like they say, because the tankie posts are blocked.

          Is it really that difficult to understand?

          • bouh@lemmy.world
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            10 months ago

            The why is there so much anti-tankie propaganda? Like so much more than antifascist propaganda?

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              10 months ago

              Tankies and fascists are just as bad. What are you trying to suggest?

              • bouh@lemmy.world
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                10 months ago

                I’m not suggesting anything. I’m pointing out a bias: eventhough fascism is rampant in the west, to the point there was a coop attempt in the US a few years ago. Yet people on lemmy are very hard fighting tankies where ever they can find them, even baiting with anti-tankie memes on a very regular basis.

                Tankies are not treated like fascists. There is a war waged against them on lemmy eventhough tankies don’t exist in the west.

                Tankies don’t exist in the west because, as it was said, tankies and fascists are the same kind of extremists, but in the west we have fascists already. You don’t have both tankies and fascists in the same place.

                So here we are, with western people on the hunt against tankies. To me they are fascists waging a cultural war on social media.

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              9 months ago

              Because people aren’t familiar with them and need to be made aware of what they really are. Too many people don’t see the damage these trolls cause because they get blocked and only see the complaints and I’m realizing that defederation has worked in their favor. If anyone actually read the shit they post they would realize they are conservatives trying to make the left look like psychopaths. They appropriate LGBT and other social justice causes in order to attempt to infiltrate the left and rot it from within. Also, they use liberal as a slur.

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              10 months ago

              Because like all true “moderates/liberals” they love attacking the left.

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      9 months ago

      That’s mostly because pseudo intellectual “leftist” tankies are almost exclusively found online. There’s no real presence irl

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        10 months ago

        Yet, but specifying this, you focus the discussion on the flaws of the left, rather than the actual fascists who are training, arming, and preparing coops in the western world, like they did in the US not so long ago.

        Yet here we are talking about how communists are also fascists…

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          10 months ago

          Us VS them totalitarian mentality. Doesn’t matter how you call these fucks, they all are the same.

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          10 months ago

          Not all fascists are communist, but they say all communists are fascist

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              10 months ago

              They’re using “fascist” when they mean “authoritarian” or “totalitarian”.

              In all fairness, there’s very little difference. Communism isn’t supposed to be authoritarian, but paint enough murals of someone and see what that does to their ego.