Valve unveiled the new Steam Machine earlier this week, and it’s cute (if you’re into cubes, anyway). But it’s not exactly a powerhouse machine: PC Gamer hardware editor Jacob Ridley, who understands this stuff far better than I ever will, called it “fairly underpowered,” noting that it rocks just a 200 watt power supply—a fraction of the PSUs in most gaming rigs. A good friend of mine, a longtime PC gamer, asked me, “Why the hell would I ever want something like this?” My answer, simply, was, “You wouldn’t.”
But that, according to Larian director of publishing Michael Douse (and I agree wholeheartedly on this) is entirely the point. Valve isn’t coming for committed PC gamers who know what they’re doing and want the lights to dim when they fire up their tabletop fusion reactors. It’s gunning for people who want Steam games on the TV without any dicking around.
“Valve are probably betting on the fact that anyone who wants more demanding PC hardware on their TV is part of the audience who know how to turn any PC into a Steam Machine,” Douse, always quick with a well-considered opinion, wrote on X. "Genuinely no point making a high-spec Steam Machine
I game on a high end PC most of the time (As high end as I can get without using an Nvidia card that is) and I’m still really excited for the steam machine. I want to be able to play party games in the living room without moving my PC. I want to play VR from my living room instead of my cramped office. Most games I’d choose to play on the couch don’t require much, but I’d still prefer a bit of a performance boost over a docked steam deck. I also just like supporting the only company dedicated to gaming on Linux, something that I feel very strongly about.
Also the thing is tiny compared to a midsize tower that is common for desktop PCs. It really packs a decent punch for something barely bigger than a GameCube with the power block built in.
The vast, vast majority of steam games will run at high settings on the listed specs no issue. New AAA titles will need to drop their settings down a bit, but should still run fine. I am totally on board and looking forward to one.
It’s essentially a SteamConsole, which was the logical step after the deck. If this goes ok, expect a Proton-based SteamOS getting pushed.
They just keep selling this thing to me harder. If it’s effectively just a steamdeck with more ports and no screen, and it’s steamdeck tier pricing? I’m there. I don’t want, don’t need, and don’t have interest in a megamachine, but my only other working computer is like 9+ years old.
Pretty much. I have a game room with my high end PC, but its not a great setup for local co op with the wife and kid, so I use a steamdeck on a dock in my living room. It works well most of the time, but having a dedicated machine for the living room with more power would be awesome to me. I suspect I am not alone on that. Honestly Im at an age too where I would like to be on the couch for a lot of my solo games and dont need the crazy graphics as much. Having my entire steam library on hand is way better than starting over with whatever the new sony or microsoft console is.
A couple of the youtubers pointed out that Valve custom built the motherboard with CEC support which is NOT something you’ll find on consumer grade hardware. The Steam Machine is about bridging the gap between the typical desktop PC experience and the console experience. They’ve been edging closer and closer to a console experience for years. Maybe this time consumers will see those console benefits as worth the PC price point.
They are going to sell about 3 metric fucktons of these things.
Valve? 3? I doubt that
They announced 3 new products, I think they’re evolving…
I hope so lol
While enjoying building overpowered rigs for myself, I plan to get a Steam Machine for my teenage son. He’s already running bazzite on his aging gaming laptop, so it’ll be a smooth transition software wise. The hardware looks beautiful and portability is a good thing for when he meets up with his friends for in person gaming sessions. If it were available today I’d immediately get it.
PC gaming is an expensive hobby. I’ve bought vehicles for less than a lot of people’s gaming PCs cost.
Strong disagree. I don’t have the funds to keep up with PC Hardware. If I could buy a dedicated machine I probably switch to that completely.
There’s no point right now, but if the Steam Machine becomes a well established product, then they totally could release a higher spec one. Once people are familiar with SteamOS and PC gaming, they would be open to paying more for more power. But let’s just get people in the door for now.
This makes me wonder whether indie devs will aim for SteamDeck/Machines as their reference, in much the same way that devs build for PlayStation/Xbox/Switch, making the majority of games run perfectly, and having the effect of kinda leveling out the power arms race for a short while. I mean, if Steam is where the majority of developers sell their games, then it makes sense to target the hardware that’s built for Steam.
So is this just ignoring the existence of high spec prebuilts already on the market and thriving? This obviously isn’t true. PC building is a hobby that heavily overlaps with PC gaming, but that venn diagram isn’t a complete circle. Some people just want to buy a rig that performs well without having to select and build every component.
Isn’t that what they’re saying?
If you want high power, build yourself or turn a pre-built into a steam machine.If you just want to pick up something that works a-la stream deck, grab this and go. It’s not competing with the high end market.
Yes prebuilts and DIY are the “elsewhere” they were talking about. The steam machine will effectively have the same ease of use as a typical console. A prebuilt with a normal OS is very far from that level of comfort.
Then we run into a pricing issue. If the price tag for this is lower or at MSRP compared to the console competition, that would be a big win for entry level (or casual) gamers who want to take advantage of the PC ecosystem, sales, and versatility.
Granted, if this thing is priced like a high-spec prebuilt, all bets are off. If this is $600 or lower, this will sell very well and have an invested community.
True. I do feel like valve has at least a little bit of consumer goodwill that is working in their favor, also. I’d be much more likely to buy a steam machine over a similarly spec’d iBuyPower or something.
Analysts are saying it’s probably going to cost $1,000 or more given the hardware specs. That’s not confirmed, but you can build a pretty decent computer for $1,000.
For 6C Zen 4, RDAN3 and that memory config? With SKUs straight from AMD?
No way, $1K max. I bet it’s much cheaper.
Maybe the “analysts”are thinking of the huge margin over retail costs boutique builders charge. But that is not applicable to Valve. They have amortization through long term volume, they have a direct relationship with AMD, and their margin comes from Steam sales.
I thought that’s the steam frame (index pricing for the full set was also $1k)
This is the article I read yesterday that I got that figure from, and it does say there is a wide range of speculation. But a lot is going to depend on the price
They did sell the Steam Deck initially at a loss (Gaben was even quoted as saying the price point was “painful”), so I’d suspect it’d be a similar story here with production at scale lowering the cost to Valve over the sales lifetime.
I wonder if that loss is just over the production cost, or the total cost? They put a lot of time and effort into prototyping.
I’m not sure what price point they could have sold it at that would have actually covered the years of development.
I think Valve never had intentions of making profit with its hardware division (Probably why they have a 2-year warranty and don’t mind hardware returns that much). They just don’t want total loss leaders ala Costco Hot Dog, so are trying to find a good balance.
“We don’t want people to think we’re getting into hardware because we want to make a ton of money, because hardware is traditionally a low-margin, crappy business. We believe that in order to push the company’s platforms forward we need to design hardware that brings better experiences for people.”
(paraphrased) Gabe Newell, from Bringus Studios’ video “Valve’s Secret Computer that I’m not supposed to have” , with interview footage provided by Tyler McVicker.
If it’s a grand, it’ll end up in the back room with those alienware steam machines.
I doubt it. That would make it pretty DOA.
Wish they didn’t skimp on RAM. 16 GiB is barely adequate.
It’s upgradeable, at least, and DDR4 SODIMM is cheap as chips (even with the recent spikes, since laptop memory is a common but niche commodity).
Surely that’s a DDR5 machine?
For Zen 4? I guess it could be, but then it would be the same situation (laptop ram tends not to be bought in bulk or used in AI/Workstation workloads, so is cheap and available).
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