• orc girly@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    We need good analysis to guide good praxis, but you can literally learn a lot of more advanced stuff from just listening to comrades, even if reading with comrades is even better.

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    2 months ago

    Knowledge is important, but values and character are more so, IMO. Many complex ideas are founded on the belief of/are distilled from basic humanity.

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    2 months ago

    Remember kids, you can’t be a good communist if you don’t have any skills. We already have people well practised at arguing on the internet.

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    2 months ago

    You can’t read a revolution into existence, but you can’t have a successful revolution without properly preparing for it and studying revolution. You wouldn’t want someone to perform surgery just because they want to help, they will almost certainly end up doing more harm than good. Revolution is the same way, we stand against the most brutal global system of imperialism, we must be prepared for it!

    If anyone wants a place to start with theory, I wrote a new basic Marxist-Leninist study guide. Give it a look!

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    Anarchists wrote books too ya know, you can’t just escape reading by changing your allegiance.

    The only real problem with the people who don’t want to read theory is they just love talking over the people who did. The Dunning Kruger effect exists in revolutionary spaces.

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      The all theory and no action crowd are definitely more annoying and proficient at taking over spaces and killing the vibe, in my experience (e.g. socialist alternative here in Aus)

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      Reading theory ≠ being highly competent, though. Dunning Kruger states that people with low competence (in specific areas) overestimate themselves, and highly competent people underestimate themselves.

      Reading doesnt necessarily make you better at things (though obviously it can help). A community organizer that’s been feeding the hungry for 40 years but has never read a political book will be more competent than someone who’s read hundreds of books but never gone out and done stuff.

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        Food pantries and soup kitckens have been feeding the hungry for more than 40 years and yet none of those places brought about political revolution. This is why theory is not negligible. If you wanna simply help the poor then a soup kitchen is fine, if you want a revolution you’re going to need more than that.

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          Food pantries and soup kitckens have been feeding the hungry for more than 40 years and yet none of those places brought about political revolution

          You, uh, might want to consider how that argument applies to reading theory. I’m all for people getting well-read, but if there is one thing that I’ve picked up from successful movements that bring change, it’s that diversity of tactics is required because there are no golden roads to getting the work done, and you need many people all working in the ways they can towards the results the collective desires.

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    This is me. Not into all the political theory, just want my fellow human beings to be treated with dignity and for everyone to have a comfortable existence.

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        Yeah, but so does just doing it. And talking to people about how to do it. The point isn’t that people shouldn’t read, it’s that the should do (and shouldn’t be prevented from doing because they can’t or won’t read).

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          One could say the same of surgery, that you can learn by doing, but like surgery, without studying what has already been discovered, you’ll be hurting a lot of people unnecessarily to get there, taking a lot longer too. We need to do both.

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            Eh. That’s the difference between a complex system (politics) and a complicated system (the part of a human body where surgery is relevant). It’s easier to write a manual for a complicated system and have it be correct and valuable. Complex systems not so much, not lease because every context is different and local knowledge is extremely valuable.

            I agree that theory is often useful. I don’t think it always is though, and I think it can be misleading and wrong for a long time without anyone really noticing. I mean… Neoliberal economics also has a lot of theory…

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              Theory is written with a purpose. Neoliberalism is wrong, but useful for maintaining capitalist hegemony. Correct theory is very useful.