I’d honestly prefer if they were locked up for one of the other crimes they have probably committed.
If you get locked up for “saying mean things to Democrats” (how they would refer to it), you can claim to be being persecuted for being a fascist Republican.
If they get locked up for DUI or sexual assault, it will be a little tougher to claim martyrdom.
Once they’re behind bars and abandoned, then bring the terrorism charges.
Edit: or, having read the article, throw him back in prison for the crimes for which he’s already admitted responsibility for.
I’d honestly prefer if they were locked up for one of the other crimes they have probably committed.
If you get locked up for “saying mean things to Democrats” (how they would refer to it), you can claim to be being persecuted for being a fascist Republican.
And you don’t think they won’t try to make those charges political? lock them up for everything you can. including terrorism. they’ll claim martyrdom no matter what happens because they have a persecution complex.
It’s protected speech up to a point. Then it becomes an actual threat. The gallows in front of Congress as the insurrectionists violently broke into the Capitol chanting “hang Mike Pence” wasn’t protected speech.
Calling for the execution of your political foes crosses a line, especially when you know that there’s a large element of your base willing to take your “protected speech” and turn it into action. That and the repeated calls from the right for violence (see Nick Fuentes calling for the execution of all Jews and enemies of Trump) elevate this beyond protected speech IMO.
The guy who hung these ornaments was one of the January 6th insurrectionists. He’s shown that he’s willing to engage in violence and so it’s not “just a Christmas tree.”
He’s since deleted his post and posted that it wasn’t a call for violence. Given that he included President Biden and VP Harris in his “noose ornaments,” he probably got a visit from the Secret Service. They don’t tend to view these things as “just harmless pranks” or “just some odd Christmas ornaments.” Especially when there are clearly people (this person included) willing to take the speech and try to make it a reality.
he also posted photos of it on the internet. intentionally. Remove the tree. The tree itself is largely irrelevant. he posted pictures of people being hung in effigy. it’s as simple as that.
It’s a fucking ornament. You’re allowed to want people executed and you’re allowed to express it in many indirect ways. You can try to paint it as incitement all you want, but passive bullshit like ornaments are fine.
What is so hard to understand, they advertised their desire for political murder to their constituents. It wasn’t “just an ornament” in private. They made a public statement by displaying it.
Why do republican sycophants insist on removing all context from this stuff? Bending over backwards to present it in a favorable way is so slimy and manipulative.
I’m not a republican I just have principles. I know it’s hard to see the difference when you can rationalize calling a christmas ornament a terroristic threat.
Politicians are trash and they all deserve a fucking noose. Every protest should have a gallows and a guillotine. And you’d be fine with that if they were ‘your’ people. Partisan fucking hack lemmy leftists can fuck off.
yes i would. Fucking hell. speech has meaning. And hanging people in effigy is easily considered a threat; particularly when you look at the history of lynch mobs. Are people allowed to say “I’m going to come for you and your family and hang you?” absolutely. But that protection doesn’t mean the government can’t lock your ass up for making terroristic threats.
Don’t feed these trolls. Let his disgraced ass fade into obscurity.
while locked up for making terroristic threats.
I’d honestly prefer if they were locked up for one of the other crimes they have probably committed.
If you get locked up for “saying mean things to Democrats” (how they would refer to it), you can claim to be being persecuted for being a
fascistRepublican.If they get locked up for DUI or sexual assault, it will be a little tougher to claim martyrdom.
Once they’re behind bars and abandoned, then bring the terrorism charges.
Edit: or, having read the article, throw him back in prison for the crimes for which he’s already admitted responsibility for.
And you don’t think they won’t try to make those charges political? lock them up for everything you can. including terrorism. they’ll claim martyrdom no matter what happens because they have a persecution complex.
If protesters burned an effigy of Trump or Bush, none of us would bat a fucking eye.
But no matter what we think, this is protected speech.
It’s protected speech up to a point. Then it becomes an actual threat. The gallows in front of Congress as the insurrectionists violently broke into the Capitol chanting “hang Mike Pence” wasn’t protected speech.
Calling for the execution of your political foes crosses a line, especially when you know that there’s a large element of your base willing to take your “protected speech” and turn it into action. That and the repeated calls from the right for violence (see Nick Fuentes calling for the execution of all Jews and enemies of Trump) elevate this beyond protected speech IMO.
Bruh it’s a christmas tree.
The guy who hung these ornaments was one of the January 6th insurrectionists. He’s shown that he’s willing to engage in violence and so it’s not “just a Christmas tree.”
He’s since deleted his post and posted that it wasn’t a call for violence. Given that he included President Biden and VP Harris in his “noose ornaments,” he probably got a visit from the Secret Service. They don’t tend to view these things as “just harmless pranks” or “just some odd Christmas ornaments.” Especially when there are clearly people (this person included) willing to take the speech and try to make it a reality.
he also posted photos of it on the internet. intentionally. Remove the tree. The tree itself is largely irrelevant. he posted pictures of people being hung in effigy. it’s as simple as that.
It’s a fucking ornament. You’re allowed to want people executed and you’re allowed to express it in many indirect ways. You can try to paint it as incitement all you want, but passive bullshit like ornaments are fine.
What is so hard to understand, they advertised their desire for political murder to their constituents. It wasn’t “just an ornament” in private. They made a public statement by displaying it.
Why do republican sycophants insist on removing all context from this stuff? Bending over backwards to present it in a favorable way is so slimy and manipulative.
I’m not a republican I just have principles. I know it’s hard to see the difference when you can rationalize calling a christmas ornament a terroristic threat.
Politicians are trash and they all deserve a fucking noose. Every protest should have a gallows and a guillotine. And you’d be fine with that if they were ‘your’ people. Partisan fucking hack lemmy leftists can fuck off.
You’re in the wrong side of history here, bud.
After the revolution message me and I’ll let you command the firing squad yourself.
If we’re heading toward less civil liberties and limits on political speech, then I’m fine with that.
yes i would. Fucking hell. speech has meaning. And hanging people in effigy is easily considered a threat; particularly when you look at the history of lynch mobs. Are people allowed to say “I’m going to come for you and your family and hang you?” absolutely. But that protection doesn’t mean the government can’t lock your ass up for making terroristic threats.
Bahaha. Are you equating a direct, verbal, actionable threat with a fucking Christmas tree ornament?