Signal is drawing a hard line on the federal government’s proposed surveillance legislation: comply with Bill C-22 or leave the country. The secure messaging app says it would rather ditch the Canadian market than be forced to weaken the privacy protections it has built its reputation on. In an interview with The Globe and Mail
It’s refreshing to see this because it’s so rare that there’s any real pushback to the global race of countries attempting to strip their citizens of any remaining scrap of privacy.
Yup. Seems to be a global fad of saying fuck privacy you need a face scan to communicate. Fuck them and fuck that.
Which means we probably need to dig deeper because the reason will either be Canada is not paying enough or some other country compromised signal already and is refusing to allow Canada to also do it
Emailed my MP. Wrote out a slew of issues this bill has. Do it. Dont go oh i should do that, or I will later, im talking to YOU reading this. Because i am you. I procrastinate. I tell myself others will fight against this.
Have you looked south of the border recently? Hows that going for them?
Web search your MP. Write the damn email. We need to get off our lazy asses and speak up. Step by step they will strip our privacy away until every digital interaction will be tied to your SIN. To your face.
Any chance you could share that list of issues to help others with their letters? I feel like including something like that helps to get the letters noticed.
I don’t personally have a list but this OpenMedia.ca campaign page is probably a good starting point.
I just did my part, this bill can’t be allowed to pass.
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Get off my lawn, zoomer. Two spaces after sentences. Two spaces between state and postal code.
Traditionally 2 spaces after the period at the end of a sentence is correct. It is still considered correct to this day, though is the “old” method.
1 space is not the only correct way.
This just in, Canada post and other mail providers will now be opening all envelopes and packages sent. All contents will be scanned or photographed and held on file for 2 years time, and released to relevant authorities upon request of investigation. To make things easier please do not seal packages or envelopes for easier and more convenient access.
All photos and scanned documents will be held in a highly secured database with easy backdoors access!
Pretty much the equivalent in terms of what Canada wants to implement with access to signal chats, VPN logs, and asking ISPs to keep logs for 1-2 years minimum.
can more canadians please let your mps know you’re not into having backdoors in supposedly secure platforms that criminals would take advantage of?
I emailed my MP of ontario. This is bullshit and i expect better from our elected reps.
Yes this should definitely concern dougiee
While it’s nice to see Signal push back for us … I will be really disappointed if I can’t use Signal in the future.
You’ll probably be able to use it. Will just have to jump through. Signal just has to do basic ip restrictions. You can bypass with VPN.
Brilliant shit. I too am looking forward to moving my family to a self-hosted alternative. /s
The public safety minister is a fucking nimwit, like a lot of the other Liberal cabinet ministers. Only a few of them seem to be actually competent at their jobs
That’s to be expected, they are politicians. Their ‘career’ is made entirely of telling people not to do the things that they do until they can buy enough boats and cottages to retire.
Agreed. He has no idea the repercussions this will have. These companies cant even keep operational data safe. What chance do these year long surveillance records have ?
The more pathetic decisions governments push worldwide like this, the more I start to feel like we’re still in the middle ages. Of course the difference being now all the power-hungry degenerates know just how much to wring out of the lowly civilians without letting them figure out who to blame.
It’s worse. We’ve gotten some hard earned concessions from the ruling class, especially from labour organizing resurgence around the Great Depression, and they’ve been rolling back since the 70s. We’re backsliding from legitimate gains.
While we all have computer walkie-talkies connected to the questionable ether, human nature has never changed.
Oh I agree completely. People tend to not realize that we’re still biologically identical to Humans from over 100 000 years ago aside from the odd irrelevant difference. Nothing’s really changed in that regard.
Saw this alternative the other day.
I too have herpes. That’s all I can think of when I read simplex.
Encrusted chats on account of the cold sores around the mouth.
Genital Simplex.
Could be a bait and switch. Say they resist publicly and to the media, but accept the terms behind the scenes.
Government gets what they want and provider keeps clients and probably picks up a few more.
But what do I know… it’s unheard of for this kind of deception in the real world… right?
And maybe my Aunt is really my uncle and about to transition into a bicycle.
I can see this happening with other companies, but for signal
- they have a consistent track record of loudly fighting against similar laws and threatening to pull out of markets if the law is passed
- the client app is open source and so they can’t make any secret deals
Yeah. I agree I can’t see signal doing it.
I messed up and commented in the wrong post. My original comment was really directed at WindScribe on another post where they apparently followed suit with signal. I have had dealings with them in the past and am happily not a customer anymore.
The server is also open source. (No guarantees the actual server is running that codebase, as is always the case with servers, but the codebase is out there)
Seems like a huge risk. You either lose a part of your userbase by leaving the country, or you risk losing your reputation internationally if it’s discovered that you are complicit in spying, and reputation is everything in the world of encrypted messaging.
