Hi all, as with most of you, I’m an immigrant from Reddit. I never used to go on to the NZ or regional subreddits because frankly, I felt very unwelcome and those places were extremely negative.
How then do we build a new community that is based on being positive and accepting, even of those with different points of view, political leanings, religious beliefs or lifestyles? Everyone deserves a voice, no one deserves to be shouted down or made to feel unwelcome or belittled because they have differing thoughts.
Even festering cunts like Brian Tamaki and his ilk, deserve a seat at the table. We live in a free country and that means everyone should get a voice. Everyone gets to speak their piece, even if you don’t like it.
How do we stop this community devolving into yet another online echo chamber?
I’m keen to hear what people didn’t like about them (and just as keen to know if you didn’t mind them)
Moderator actions are published in the Modlog. Note that because servers are federated, the Modlog has lots of actions by mods on other servers.
I guess this is possible through creating a topic about it (if mods remove it then you’d know from the Modlog)
The first part of holding people responsible is calling them out. Then yes, temporary or permanent bans are about the only escalation option available.
The mods at r/nz seemed pretty reasonable.
Agreed
As I said the subreddit is shaped by them so if you don’t like the subreddit the blame lies only with the moderators. As far as I can see there were several problems. One was that they were arbitrary in their decisions. There were rules but they didn’t matter. If they liked you then you could violate any rule, if they didn’t like you they banned you. Another problem was that they used alts to participate in the subreddit and again if you got into an argument with one of them you had no idea you were arguing with a moderator and consequences could be severe. Finally some of the moderators were downright bad people. They harassed people, threatened people, online stalked people, doxxed people etc.
That reduces the utility of the such a log. You should be able to filter them for any server or even any topic.
I guess this is a workaround. I would prefer a proper system like they had at slashdot (don’t know if they still have it, I haven’t been there in ages).
Maybe some creativity needs to be applied to see if there are other actions that can be done. Maybe tagging? Maybe some sort of tally of reports on the user? Maybe posting their karma next the name etc. This is a good opportunity to engage the community.
If you don’t like any of our team, please feel free to DM me! If you don’t like me, you can still DM me (or another of the team). We try not to be bad people.
Ultimately Lemmy is new, and many things are not fleshed out. This should get better over time.
Lemmy doesn’t yet support tagging people or posts.
This makes me think of the way people on reddit try to get as many downvotes as they can…
I feel it’s too early. Once there are problems, then we can look at solutions.
I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking about the moderators on /r/nz.
I know! But if it gets like that here, I do want to know!
All of that sounds like it would be resolved by a lighter moderation approach with fewer rules. Additionally, it’s way easier to fork a lemmy community when things get weird. People can tell when community leaders are bad. “Hospitality Club” and “NZ Mushroom Growing” are two that jump to mind where the ego of the leaders makes the communities difficult to participate in the community. People leave when they figure it out.
You are right. Distributed communities do allow you to jump ship but I suppose the same arguments got made on reddit as in “make your own subreddit”. Unfortunately on reddit the mods camped on all the NZ related subreddits. They set all of them up and the same set of people ran all of them.