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      He also calls for giving Israel veto power for the existence of a Palestinian state i.e. it’ll never happen. If he wanted a Palestinian state then he would recognize it now the way other countries are doing.

      But you know what?

      The two state solution is a fucking joke anyway. If this was South Africa, would the solution be a two state solution?

      He’s just lying so people in the US stop calling him Genocide Joe and vote for him.

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        Nothing in that article mentions an Israeli veto, just that peace talks should happen between the two groups, and not just unilateral recognition that fixes nothing on the ground.

        The two state solution is a fucking joke anyway.

        Tell that to the Palestinian people.

        If this was South Africa, would the solution be a two state solution?

        South Africa didn’t and doesn’t have an equal amount of White and Black people like Israel-Palestine has Jews and Palestinians that each want their own state. The two state solution is literally the only credible solution and has been for 30 years.

        He’s just lying so people in the US stop calling him Genocide Joe and vote for him.

        That was a handful of people online and a few protestors at his rallies. Those don’t change longstanding U.S. foreign policy of support for two states, and Lemmy isn’t representative of the U.S. voting population.

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          Nothing in that article mentions an Israeli veto, just that peace talks should happen between the two groups, and not just unilateral recognition that fixes nothing on the ground.

          Genocidiers don’t get to participate in talks. They should be forced to recognize Palestine by any means necessary. There must be a Palestinian state no matter what Israel has to say.

          Letting Israel dictate terms is a veto.

          Tell that to the Palestinian people.

          They correctly see it as the only thing Israel and the US will allow them to talk about, but that doesn’t make it serious. That’s the point. It’s a distraction put on the table to keep people from demanding an end to apartheid and a single mutli-ethnic/multi-religious democracy from the river to the sea.

          The two state solution is literally the only credible solution and has been for 30 years.

          The fact that it’s been 30 fucking years should tell you it’s not a real solution. It’s a distraction.

          That was a handful of people online and a few protestors at his rallies.

          Please. The campaign went from refusing any mention of ceasefire to asking for a temporary ceasefire. It went from approving everything Israel wants to halting some bomb shipments. Do you think that happens for no reason?

          Biden is being pressured from his base. He knows he’s going to lose if he can’t get them to vote for him, so he’s trying to appeal to their demands.

          I can respect people who recognize Biden is supporting genocide and still think he’s better than Trump. I disagree with their conclusions, but at least they recognize reality.

          People who try to pretend that he’s actually against the genocide make me sick.