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      I’ll be the last person to say that both sides same bullshit, but Democrats are still politicians. They seek positions of influence and power, and they need public support to do it. There’s a certain type of person who thrives in that environment, and they are absolutely the last type of person you want in leadership roles.

      Anyone who is currently in power will oppose ranked choice voting because it breaks up the monolithic power structure that so many powerful people use as leverage. It reduces the effectiveness of wedge issues, which means leaders will actually have to present nuanced opinions on many topics. It decreases extremism, which means their opponents will likely be closer ideologically to themselves, all of which is better for the voters and worse for the politicians.

      Democrats in power love that the GOP has become unhinged. It makes the rational choice incredibly easy. Ranked choice will break up both parties into smaller categories, killing the demon they would rather be fighting.

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        Democrats in power love that the GOP has become unhinged

        I feel like it’s important to point out right now that this was literally Hillary’s strategy in 2016. Google “HRC Pied Piper”, we have the email where she told the DNC to help boost the campaigns of the crazier republicans like Trump. The theory was that he would be too crazy for the general election. The fact was she vastly underestimated the triumvirate powers of voter apathy, right wing populist rhetoric and the average person’s disdain for her personally and was halfway through her victory lap in Texas when she realized that she actually lost.

        So yeah, if you were one of the people harmed by the hateful rhetoric and incompetent policymaking of the Trump administration he’s absolutely at fault, but it’s important to remember that the DNC was willing to gamble with your safety and stability in order to maintain power. They’re aristocrats first, then they choose what flavor of aristocrat to be.

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        Democrats in power love that the GOP has become unhinged. It makes the rational choice incredibly easy.

        This dynamic frightens me so much.

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        Which is exactly where the “both sides” arguments come from. Sure, the Democrats aren’t openly pushing the country towards fascism, but they also aren’t interested in real change that would fix some of the fundamental problems, like with the electoral system. They’d rather be the one rational choice in a system that enables the Republicans and all of the risks that go along with that than support a system that would have a better chance at making real progress.

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          Politics 101 - if you ever follow through on a campaign promise, then you can’t campaign on it in the next election. So over promise, under deliver, and find a scapegoat to blame for your inability to get anything done.

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          Democrats can absolutely act in facist ways. The willingness to not call facistic actions facism just because historically Republicans have acted that way is wild. People can’t be this stupid.

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                I’m just saying this isn’t a good time for calling someone “fascist” metaphorically to make a point.

                We have an actual, for-serious, fascist party in control of parts of the country. They were barely prevented from ending democracy entirely just a few years ago, and they haven’t yet been ejected entirely from the republic.

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        They may not be the same but they’re both racist as fuck. Republicans see POCs as animals and Democrats see them as children.

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      Like they’re different? At least Republicans who are racist are honest about their racism. Democrats who are racist just like to pretend they’re racist for the good of the minorities they’re racist against. "Poor black people, they won’t understand how to list their 3 favorite candidates in order, we can’t possibly make this change.

      Do people honestly think democrats WANT any changes to happen? They’re elites in power. They’re going to hold onto that power as long as they can.

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        Got what? Both sides are the same? Let me check the list:

        Democrat Republican
        Don’t want ranked voting Don’t want ranked voting
        Want everybody to have a puppy dog Want to kill every puppy dog

        Nah, still not the same. It just sucks you are stuck with two parties that don’t completely oppose each other on all policy points.

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          It just sucks you are stuck with two parties that don’t completely oppose each other on all policy points.

          Republicans opposing Democrats on all points is how we got into this mess, blame Newt Gingrich

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            Always someone to blame as well. My point wasn’t that the 2 party system should totally oppose one another. It is that there are just 2 parties to choose from at all.

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            I wanted to keep it light-hearted as it is the meme and all that… But, you want me to mention their actual points? To be fair and balanced?

            You wanted me to mention the control over women’s bodies, abortions for me but not for thee?

            Or maybe the supporting killing children in schools by only granting thought and prayers whenever a tragedy strikes AGAIN? You know the EU pretty much stopped reporting all the shooting incidents in the states as it is no longer newsworthy? It is only through America-centric Lemmy communities that I hear about most shootings.

            Or perhaps the red-scare levels of fearmongering about insert minority that is easily targeted of this season?

            This is what I see republicans be through their actions.