AFTER EIGHT YEARS of Republican fealty to Donald J. Trump, few would argue that the party is still defined by Ronald Reagan’s famous three-legged stool of the religious right, fiscal conservatives and neoconservative hawks.
But if the Republican Party is no longer in Reagan’s image, it’s not necessarily a populist-conservative MAGA monolith, either.
The last New York Times/Siena College poll found that only 37 percent of Republicans count as part of Mr. Trump’s loyal base.
And while majorities of Republicans side with Mr. Trump on almost every issue, those majorities are often quite slim: Around 40 percent of Republican-leaning voters support aid to Ukraine, support comprehensive immigration reform or say abortion should be mostly or always legal.
ut if the Republican Party isn’t quite a MAGA monolith, what is it? To better understand the party today, we split Republican and Republican-leaning voters into groups, based on the results of our Times/Siena poll. The groups were defined by how Republican-leaning voters felt on the issues — not how they felt about Mr. Trump.
The results depict a Republican coalition that consists of six groups:
The Moderate Establishment (14%). Highly educated, affluent, socially moderate or even liberal and often outright Never Trump.
The Traditional Conservatives (26%). Old-fashioned economic and social conservatives who oppose abortion and prefer corporate tax cuts to new tariffs. They don’t love Mr. Trump, but they do support him.
The Right Wing (26%). They watch Fox News and Newsmax. They’re “very conservative.” They’re disproportionately evangelical. They believe America is on the brink of catastrophe. And they love Mr. Trump more than any other group.
The Blue Collar Populists (12%). They’re mostly Northern, socially moderate, economic populists who hold deeply conservative views on race and immigration. Not only do they back Mr. Trump, but he himself probably counted as one a decade ago.
The Libertarian Conservatives (14%). These disproportionately Western and Midwestern conservatives value freedom and small government. They’re relatively socially moderate and isolationist. Other than the establishment, it’s Mr. Trump’s worst group.
The Newcomers (8%). They don’t look like Republicans. They’re young, diverse and moderate. But these disaffected voters like Democrats and the “woke” left even less.
Mr. Trump’s dominance of the Republican Party is founded on an alliance between the Right Wing and Blue Collar Populists, two groups that combine to represent nearly 40 percent of Republicans — and about two-thirds of Mr. Trump’s MAGA base of seemingly unshakable support.
The Blue Collar Populists and the Right Wing don’t always agree. In particular, they split on the issues of the religious right, like same-sex marriage and abortion. But these two groups are big Trump supporters. They mostly agree with him on his defining issues and they share his deeply pessimistic, even cataclysmic view of the direction of the country, including fear of the declining white share of the population.
The alliance between Blue Collar Populists and the Right Wing has left Mr. Trump’s potential opposition in disarray. Before Trump, the party’s mainstream prevailed against Right Wing candidates by uniting Traditional Conservatives and the moderate factions — both Establishment and Blue Collar. That blueprint for victory appears to be closed, at least for now.
Without a natural factional base, Ron DeSantis has struggled to maintain a steady foothold in the race. In fact, Mr. Trump leads Mr. DeSantis among every group of Republican voters identified in the analysis. The rest of the party, beyond Mr. Trump’s base, may not always back Trump policies, but it’s not necessarily anti-Trump. And the closest thing to an anti-Trump group in the party — the Moderate Establishment — has become alienated from the rest of the party.
Only two types of Republican. The ones who know they are racist as fuck and ruining the country by tricking idiots into votigin against their interests, and the idiots who got tricked jnto voting against their own interest.
Ahh, yes. Because obviously everyone who doesn’t unquestioningly agree with you is voting against their own interests.
If anyone is voting for gigantic GOP tax cuts for billionaire elites and is not a billionaire, then they are voting against their own interests.
So you’re of the opinion that people should vote entirely on greed rather than on principled views?
How is it greed if you’re poor and voting for rich people to get tax cuts?
It isn’t. That’s my point. The guy I was responding to made the claim that people should not vote for anything good if it isn’t directly good for them, individually. The greedy perspective is voting for higher taxes on someone else just because it isn’t your pocket.
I was arguing that people should vote based on principles. For instance, it isn’t voting against your interest to support tax cuts if you believe that everyone should be paying less taxes
For instance, it isn’t voting against your interest to support tax cuts if you believe that everyone should be paying less taxes
You are operating the assumption that everyone is paying their fair share of taxes. Billionaires in the US pay 8.2% in federal taxes, which doesn’t include all their untaxable assets and tax evasion schemes. The average tax payer pays 13.3%, up to 37% depending on their tax bracket.
You might think that 5% isn’t a big difference, but keep in mind that 5% of a billion is $50,000,000. Billionaires don’t become billionaires through ‘hard work and ethics’. They become billionaires through exploitation of the ghastly federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, a wage that would be about $21.5 per hour if it kept up with inflation. Keep in mind that this is the bare minimum, not a livable wage, which would be closer to $30 per hour.
Billionaires are typically born with hoards of intergenerational wealth, in wealthy neighborhoods with well funded schools. Your zip code will largely tell you whether or not you succeed. The American Dream has long been dead and it’s time to wake up.
The only fair taxation is no taxation. Beyond the utopian ideal and into the real world, the fairest tax is the lowest possible tax.
But the GOP has almost never cut taxes for the working class. They maintain the status quo while cutting taxes for the wealthy.
That’s the whole “trickle down” thing. Sure, they usually don’t increase taxes on working people (see: flat tax for exceptions to that), but they also support cutting services for poor people.
Tax cuts for some is better than for none
what fucking principles?
Ones you’re presumably too stupid to understand
like what, shitbird?
respectfully, please do elaborate
You’re seriously struggling to figure out how it’s possible to have a principled stance against taxes?
there’s really only 2 types of republicans:
- the ones with money. fuck you, got mine.
- unfathomably stupid degenerates who got duped by the above group. useful idiots.
They mostly agree with him on his defining issues and they share his deeply pessimistic, even cataclysmic view of the direction of the country, including fear of the declining white share of the population.
And there it is. What unites them. Racism.
Also “deeply conservative views on race” under the blue collar voter.
After the last 8 years, there’s not really any reason to sub-divide out different categories of traitors. They all saw his shit. If still they support him, they’re to blame.
Missing in this list: the doctrinaire white supremacists, the ones who would have voted (or did vote) for George Wallace in '68. Once part of the Democratic Party machine, the white supremacists left it when the Democrats took up civil rights.
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NYT trash. These 6 types are just masks Republicans put on to pretend they stand for sensible values when their actions prove otherwise.
For the ones that actually care about politics, their MO is some combination of own the libs and or increasing their party’s power by any means. Academics can break them down by which ones will and won’t vote for Trump in the primary, but that distinction is moot when +95% of them would vote for Trump over Jesus running as a Democrat.
Just call them a cult.
Well, the NYT has data. You have whatever it is that you pulled out of your ass.
You believe pollster data proves it’s not a cult, like cult members would answer questions honestly? lulz
I’m surprised they peg libertarians so low. I know a lot of people that vote GOP just for “lower taxes”. Where do they fit in?
So only about half of Republicans are actually socially conservative, other half is moderate. Which makes me wonder why the GOP is pushing so hard on these culture wars when it’s a losing battle and all it does is divide our country even more and hurt minorities.
Because the socially conservative faction is militant and even with their fervant support the GOP only gets enough votes to win elections when they resort to gerrymandering and voter suppression. Anyone who doesn’t at least pay lip service to the christofascist talking points during primaries will get destroyed by one of the candidates that’s actually willing to. The only GOP members who can afford to not bow down to their extremist element are those who are never planning to run for any public office again.
The GOP is very much the polar opposite of the DNC. While the GOP is run by the most extreme members of their party the DNC on the other hand is run by the most moderate members of the party. They have in fact been incredibly successful at blocking any candidate that’s even moderately progress. It’s why the US effectively has a slightly right of center party and an extreme right party. The DNC is only left in that they’re further left than the GOP which is just about as far right as you can possibly be. In all other respects the DNC is centrist with slight right leanings.
Culture wars for both sides of the aisle don’t add to the government budget. You can yell and scream for a cause without any consequence. No one other than the other side gets angry. It’s a sideshow while the real legislation is barely talked about, pro-corporate legislation for their donors.
Sure.
Except one side isn’t actively trying to kill the other and violently overthrow the government. Stop with the whataboutism. We know it’s bad, but let’s deal with the side with plainly murderous intent first.
That’s working great so far.
Calling out terrible Democrats and voting in real left wing Democrats is a necessary step at the same time as fighting Republicans. Doing nothing just makes a better case for the Republicans to gain neutral voters as we have seen in many other countries where the center left is losing to fascists.
