Look man, you don’t know the military well, so it’s easy to criticize the actions of people whose position you never have to imagine yourself in,
Got it. Let he who has flipped the switch cast the first stone at the brave men and women manning the gas chambers!
but it’s like open-and-shut, you go to jail and fail to change anything if you’re not careful.
Again. What do you think is going to happen to the people protesting and actually fighting against tyranny when ICE et al have had enough? Hell, the government is trying to send fucking Kat Abughazaleh to jail and she is a pretty white presenting politician with a large social media following.
But I get it. It is much easier for people who haven’t served to have a backbone and actually fight against tyranny. Because… they don’t know how good boot leather tastes?
Are you saying the National Guard should fight ICE right now?
Or are you saying the National Guard soldiers should frag their officers?
Or just the soldiers here and there resist how they can and go to jail for refusing to pick up trash? This one leaves you with a National Guard completely not on your side instead of at least half on your side when you might need it most.
Are you saying the National Guard should fight ICE right now?
Hmm. A heavily armed paramilitary group acting in an illegal and unconstitutional manner to attack, torment, and abduct a civilian populace? Why would I expect the US military to intervene against that?
Or just the soldiers here and there resist how they can and go to jail for refusing to pick up trash? This one leaves you with a National Guard completely not on your side instead of at least half on your side when you might need it most.
No. What we have is half gleefully oppressing people and the other half pretending they are sad while… oppressing people.
MAYBE they’ll grow a backbone down the line. All signs are that they’ll continue to refuse and people like you will continue to defend them because there might be consequences for them not forcing civilian populations to live in fear.
I’m saying right now it’s neither wise nor warranted, as messed up as it may sound.
When Trump actually orders them to do something unconstitutional, they can refuse it. When he refuses to step down from the end of his term as president and order them to crush the states that don’t ratify his third term, they can remove his ass.
But the things you want them to do right now, while I don’t inherently disagree with, just sound impulsive and foolish.
When he refuses to step down from the end of his term as president and order them to crush the states that don’t ratify his third term, they can remove his ass.
Sort of like back in 2021 when he led a violent coup with the goal of murdering Congress and the VPOTUS because he didn’t want to step down?
I am so glad that the military… let me check my notes… ah, yes. Waited to see who would win.
I am so glad that the military… let me check my notes… ah, yes. Waited to see who would win.
Are you a high schooler that just learned that being cynical will make you sound smarter among peers who don’t have the knowledge to challenge you?
Explain what should have happened in that scenario in your view.
Which person in the military has the authority to unilaterally deploy US Military personnel for the purposes of domestic law enforcement?
What authority allows them to ignore the Posse Comitatus Act, which explicitly does not allow the use of the Military for domestic law enforcement?
Or, if you want to go after the NG service members, what should they do as individuals in your mind? Should they refuse to leave their barracks? Maybe go to their commanding officer and ask to be arrested? What specific thing?
You’re throwing a lot of stones and summoning hypotheticals without any apparent understanding of how the military functions.
Something something, yeah son well I’m a secret navy seal and I’ll tell you that the marines are actually a culture that deeply values honor something something laughed at me while eating his snickers.
Still, gotta love how in your rant (I REALLY hope that is a copypasta and not something you thought up yourself…) you managed to combine “you are too soft and don’t understand what war is” with “the soldiers might get in twouble if they say anything”.
Which… about sums up America when you think about it.
M8 civilians don’t take oaths to protect the constitution. So asking one to do your job for you is in poor taste.
I get where you’re coming from. But collectively he is right. Individually you’re right. But eventually those two are gunna collide. We all know it. Because we all feel it. It is what it is. Until the battle lines are truly drawn we can’t naught but look or risk being sold a lie and acting on it.
That’s the crux there are different levels of realities happening here. Schumer just betrayed us. If you violently attack rn then it will be seen as a terrorist attack serving absolutely no purpose. This you will destroy your individualism to protect the collective. But at no gain, infact it could be a negative.
But at the same time Schumer just betrayed us and something must be done. But like you mentioned the power is the white moderate who is asleep.
Got it. Let he who has flipped the switch cast the first stone at the brave men and women manning the gas chambers!
Again. What do you think is going to happen to the people protesting and actually fighting against tyranny when ICE et al have had enough? Hell, the government is trying to send fucking Kat Abughazaleh to jail and she is a pretty white presenting politician with a large social media following.
But I get it. It is much easier for people who haven’t served to have a backbone and actually fight against tyranny. Because… they don’t know how good boot leather tastes?
Are you saying the National Guard should fight ICE right now?
Or are you saying the National Guard soldiers should frag their officers?
Or just the soldiers here and there resist how they can and go to jail for refusing to pick up trash? This one leaves you with a National Guard completely not on your side instead of at least half on your side when you might need it most.
Hmm. A heavily armed paramilitary group acting in an illegal and unconstitutional manner to attack, torment, and abduct a civilian populace? Why would I expect the US military to intervene against that?
No. What we have is half gleefully oppressing people and the other half pretending they are sad while… oppressing people.
MAYBE they’ll grow a backbone down the line. All signs are that they’ll continue to refuse and people like you will continue to defend them because there might be consequences for them not forcing civilian populations to live in fear.
I’m not saying they shouldn’t resist.
I’m saying right now it’s neither wise nor warranted, as messed up as it may sound.
When Trump actually orders them to do something unconstitutional, they can refuse it. When he refuses to step down from the end of his term as president and order them to crush the states that don’t ratify his third term, they can remove his ass.
But the things you want them to do right now, while I don’t inherently disagree with, just sound impulsive and foolish.
Sort of like back in 2021 when he led a violent coup with the goal of murdering Congress and the VPOTUS because he didn’t want to step down?
I am so glad that the military… let me check my notes… ah, yes. Waited to see who would win.
Are you a high schooler that just learned that being cynical will make you sound smarter among peers who don’t have the knowledge to challenge you?
Explain what should have happened in that scenario in your view.
Which person in the military has the authority to unilaterally deploy US Military personnel for the purposes of domestic law enforcement?
What authority allows them to ignore the Posse Comitatus Act, which explicitly does not allow the use of the Military for domestic law enforcement?
Or, if you want to go after the NG service members, what should they do as individuals in your mind? Should they refuse to leave their barracks? Maybe go to their commanding officer and ask to be arrested? What specific thing?
You’re throwing a lot of stones and summoning hypotheticals without any apparent understanding of how the military functions.
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Something something, yeah son well I’m a secret navy seal and I’ll tell you that the marines are actually a culture that deeply values honor something something laughed at me while eating his snickers.
Still, gotta love how in your rant (I REALLY hope that is a copypasta and not something you thought up yourself…) you managed to combine “you are too soft and don’t understand what war is” with “the soldiers might get in twouble if they say anything”.
Which… about sums up America when you think about it.
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M8 civilians don’t take oaths to protect the constitution. So asking one to do your job for you is in poor taste.
I get where you’re coming from. But collectively he is right. Individually you’re right. But eventually those two are gunna collide. We all know it. Because we all feel it. It is what it is. Until the battle lines are truly drawn we can’t naught but look or risk being sold a lie and acting on it.
Collective action is the smart play.
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That’s the crux there are different levels of realities happening here. Schumer just betrayed us. If you violently attack rn then it will be seen as a terrorist attack serving absolutely no purpose. This you will destroy your individualism to protect the collective. But at no gain, infact it could be a negative.
But at the same time Schumer just betrayed us and something must be done. But like you mentioned the power is the white moderate who is asleep.