It is at this moment I would like to remind everyone that 100 is the average IQ, which necessarily means that half of the people that walk among us are rocking double digit IQs.
Sure, but there are going to be brain injuries and other disabilities that have a limiting effect on IQ, which would lower the mean relative to the median at least a little. And it’s hard to imagine there’s an equivalent upward trend of genius outliers.
No, 100 is the median IQ, but that doesn’t preclude there being a lot of people with exactly 100 IQ. Thus there would be less than half of the population below 100 (and also less than half above 100).
That quote from Carlin is one that often comes to mind, LOL.
It’s alarming to learn how accurate that actually is. People often talk about how comedians are basically today’s philosophers and I can understand why.
The measurements on numeracy and literacy in the United States explains quite a bit about one’s everyday experience. I mean, I went to university and graduated. I got mostly A’s in K-12. I was not valedictorian. I did not have a 4.0 in university. I don’t have a PhD. I consider myself someone with about average intelligence, but I applied myself. I read rather widely. I try to apply logic to situations and assess new material as it comes in.
I don’t think this is some high bar for an adult. Honestly, I consider the above the bare minimum. Often it felt like I was coasting in high school and parts of university.
But everyday experiences and seeing how other adults behave and what they believe and accept as “fact” seems to constitute a baffling array of the ridiculous and the silly. When you remember things like this, it makes a bit more sense:
Gtfo 100? Huh, I would have thought it would be higher, the intelligence quotient test does no such thing as measure intelligence however. They’re logic tests, and if you practice logic tests you get better at them, intelligence is the ability to learn, smarts is your compiled knowledge. If anything this IQ test measures your smarts.
That said people are dumb as shit for many reasons.
Scores are adjusted such that the median is ALWAYS 100. That’s how we do IQ. Every response to my previous post ignoring this and arguing otherwise should just be outright ignored.
Ugh sorry. It’s them not you lol.
It is by definition that the average IQ is 100. I responded to you and not them because you weren’t pretentious about getting new information. 🍻
Something can be a fact and a belief at the same time. E.G. some people believe the moon landing was faked or that the Earth is flat. It’s a fact that the cost of living was lower under Biden yet some people believe that it’s lower under Trump. Those people are just as crazy as the flat Earthers, and yet they still exist. The real concerning thing is how many of them there are though. The fact that it’s not something like 1% or fewer that believes Trump is better is really concerning but sadly not surprising. Your average Trump supporter is really dumb and ignorant.
Because if 40% of people believed the Earth was flat you’d probably want to know that. It shows what a disturbingly large chunk of the US is just straight delusional and to a certain extent how we got into this situation in the first place. Decades after decades of propaganda and the constant stream of bullshit from places like Fox News and then Facebook has reduced a significant chunk of the US population into idiots that are literally incapable of just observing reality and coming to a reasonable conclusion.
Because for some people it can be cheaper, especially if they moved. So, the poll sheds light on for how many people are their lives more or less expensive even if on average we know most prices went up for most products.
Because they infer a lot about how people will vote. It is an election after all.
In short, we can demonstrate that something is a fact, but if greater than 50% of the population doesn’t believe it then not much can come of it. Feelings don’t change facts, but they do change how people act upon facts
Umm no? It does describe how propaganda can work, but people can be influenced in many ways. Asking them how they feel on a topic is not propaganda. Based on the results you can analyze and argue that people are being influenced by propaganda
What do you mean “believe”? It’s not an opinion
It is at this moment I would like to remind everyone that 100 is the average IQ, which necessarily means that half of the people that walk among us are rocking double digit IQs.
It’s not necessarily half. There could be a group that is a fair bit less than half, but are so dumb they throw the averages off.
It’s a normal distribution so it’s pretty damn close to half
Sure, but there are going to be brain injuries and other disabilities that have a limiting effect on IQ, which would lower the mean relative to the median at least a little. And it’s hard to imagine there’s an equivalent upward trend of genius outliers.
Sure there is take an iq test on adderall
IQ Georg is an outlier and should not be considered
No, 100 is the median IQ, but that doesn’t preclude there being a lot of people with exactly 100 IQ. Thus there would be less than half of the population below 100 (and also less than half above 100).
Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize half the population is even fucking dumber.
That quote from Carlin is one that often comes to mind, LOL.
It’s alarming to learn how accurate that actually is. People often talk about how comedians are basically today’s philosophers and I can understand why.
The measurements on numeracy and literacy in the United States explains quite a bit about one’s everyday experience. I mean, I went to university and graduated. I got mostly A’s in K-12. I was not valedictorian. I did not have a 4.0 in university. I don’t have a PhD. I consider myself someone with about average intelligence, but I applied myself. I read rather widely. I try to apply logic to situations and assess new material as it comes in.
I don’t think this is some high bar for an adult. Honestly, I consider the above the bare minimum. Often it felt like I was coasting in high school and parts of university.
But everyday experiences and seeing how other adults behave and what they believe and accept as “fact” seems to constitute a baffling array of the ridiculous and the silly. When you remember things like this, it makes a bit more sense:
https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/survey-of-adults-skills-2023-country-notes_ab4f6b8c-en/united-states_427d6aac-en.html
Gtfo 100? Huh, I would have thought it would be higher, the intelligence quotient test does no such thing as measure intelligence however. They’re logic tests, and if you practice logic tests you get better at them, intelligence is the ability to learn, smarts is your compiled knowledge. If anything this IQ test measures your smarts.
That said people are dumb as shit for many reasons.
Despite the other person suggesting it is ‘higher now’, nope.
It is by definition 100. (Mean not median as incorrectly suggested by me earlier. Those correction are valid and welcome.)
But yes. 100.
A lot of responses to my post have a lot of armchair this and that so I haven’t interacted with them.
https://www.pearsonassessments.com/content/dam/school/global/clinical/us/assets/featured-topics/assessment-primer-whitepaper.pdf
See for yourself. (Page 3-4)
Scores are adjusted such that the median is ALWAYS 100. That’s how we do IQ. Every response to my previous post ignoring this and arguing otherwise should just be outright ignored.
Ugh sorry. It’s them not you lol.
It is by definition that the average IQ is 100. I responded to you and not them because you weren’t pretentious about getting new information. 🍻
Yeah, it’s normalized so the median is 100.
Sure, but the poll itself is already dumb. Why poll opinions on a fact? It implies there’s any actual value or some truth to this.
Something can be a fact and a belief at the same time. E.G. some people believe the moon landing was faked or that the Earth is flat. It’s a fact that the cost of living was lower under Biden yet some people believe that it’s lower under Trump. Those people are just as crazy as the flat Earthers, and yet they still exist. The real concerning thing is how many of them there are though. The fact that it’s not something like 1% or fewer that believes Trump is better is really concerning but sadly not surprising. Your average Trump supporter is really dumb and ignorant.
Yes, but why even poll for that?
Because politics is driven by perception, not reality. That’s why propaganda works.
Because if 40% of people believed the Earth was flat you’d probably want to know that. It shows what a disturbingly large chunk of the US is just straight delusional and to a certain extent how we got into this situation in the first place. Decades after decades of propaganda and the constant stream of bullshit from places like Fox News and then Facebook has reduced a significant chunk of the US population into idiots that are literally incapable of just observing reality and coming to a reasonable conclusion.
Because for some people it can be cheaper, especially if they moved. So, the poll sheds light on for how many people are their lives more or less expensive even if on average we know most prices went up for most products.
It does, but that doesn’t seem to have been the intend of the poll
Because very often people vote based on how they feel and that does not always align with the facts
what does IQ have to do with the price of groceries?
They don’t understand what numbers mean and base their beliefs on how things make them feel.
Actually the average is like 103 nowadays im assuming from better nutrition than when IQ tests were invented about 100 years ago
Nope, just slow renormalization.
This is a post truth society
Americans are obsessed with polling for opinions on measurable metrics for some reason
Because they infer a lot about how people will vote. It is an election after all.
In short, we can demonstrate that something is a fact, but if greater than 50% of the population doesn’t believe it then not much can come of it. Feelings don’t change facts, but they do change how people act upon facts
Are you describing propaganda?
Umm no? It does describe how propaganda can work, but people can be influenced in many ways. Asking them how they feel on a topic is not propaganda. Based on the results you can analyze and argue that people are being influenced by propaganda
According to my survey, 37% of Americans are annoyed you said this