For fucks sakes BBC that headline is horseshit.

Shame.

B12 is readily available at low cost. My B12 supplements cost me roughly 3 USD per annum. The money saved by a plant-based diet will cover this cost many times over.

This is a solved problem.

Weird. I’ve been vegan for a decade and not dead yet.

I was more actively suicidal when I ate animals than when I stopped

It feels irresponsible to use that headline and not mention that most vegans don’t go insane. Because some people actually do seem to think compassion diets kill you, despite the obvious empirical evidence to the contrary.

I’ve seen more compelling writing on the back of a gum wrapper.

Absolutely pathetic, BBC.

Posh girl kills herself, family and courts read her personal diaries in order to blame veganism.

Usual BBC slant on anything vegan. They are consistently doing their best to make avoiding animal products seem dangerous.

Nooch FTW. B12’s important for vegans to consider, but a vegan diet doesn’t make a person “delusional”… B12 deficiency does.

Vitamin B12 is found in meat, fish, eggs, dairy products and specially fortified foods, and, according to the NHS, a deficiency can lead to psychological problems.

B12 is supplemented to the animals so in reality these are also fortified foods.

Sad to see this play out again. Lots of people are deficient in B12 and various other essential nutrients. The worst part from my perspective is obviously the loss of life, but the second worst is how easy this is to fix. I am by no means a vegan, I definitely eat my fair share of meat and eggs, but B12 deficiency is easy enough to get, especially if you eat a lot of processed foods or have a mono diet, eating the same thing every day.

For B12 I would recommend nutritional yeast. It gives a cheesy sort of flavour and can be added to foods like beans, refried beans, ragu/bolognaise, various pasta dishes, the list goes on. A fairly small amount packs a lot of B vitamins and you can have quite a bit without any issue. It also keeps very well, just requiring an airtight container and maybe a dessicant packet for longer term storage.

If you take some tapioca starch and add it to water then slowly reduce it you can make a really nice cheese sauce substitute, very similar to Mac and cheese. Nutritional yeast adds the full flavour and colour, making it actually tasty.

I suppose that limiting your diet means it now on manual and care has to be taken to ensure that it is adequate.

A vegan diet is a bit unnatural. And thus requires attention and education in nutrition and gut microbes and such.

You can get pretty sick if you aren’t doing it right.

A lot of people wanting to jump into vegan and even vegetarian don’t take the time to learn that there are some foods you absolutely need in order to counter the loss from animal products.

Also I’ve had friends get sick as vegans from issues with gut microbes imbalance and it was fixed by dairy (yogurt). So they just went vegetarian and bought dairy from more ethical sources.

Is “delusional” some dumb new way of saying “delulu” or somn?

Has someone posted this to /c/vegancirclejerk@lemmy.vg yet?

I have never met a healthy vegan…and i live on the west coast and have met lots of vegans.

Killed herself is a little different from “died”.

But what they are burying here is B-12 deficiency is not limited to vegans. Anyone can have it.

“Gray said Owen “reported to her family that she had bought an organic B12 supplement from Canada” and would take a daily dosage of 1mg.”

Yeah, not enough. My doc has me taking 2,500mcg or 2.5mg.