The Senate is working to pass a $95.3 billion foreign aid bill with assistance for Ukraine and Israel, but it may be days until a final vote as GOP Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky is using arcane and complex chamber rules to slow down the process into the weekend.
The chamber cleared a critical 60-vote threshold to advance the bill on Thursday, and took another procedural vote Friday night. But without an agreement from all 100 senators to speed up the process and swiftly pass the legislation, the Senate is expected to work through the weekend with a final vote next week.
“I think we should stay here as long as it takes,” Paul told CNN’s Manu Raju on Thursday. “If it takes a week or a month, I’ll force them to stay here to discuss why they think the border of Ukraine is more important than the US border.”
People can agree with one thing without agreeing with/defending everything.
Why do you agree with Rand Paul doing it this time?
Why are you assuming I do?
Fwiw, i don’t think we should be finding the genocide of Palestinians or whitewashing how many Nazis are actually in Ukraine and I’m not interested in arguing whether authoritarian Nazis or authoritarian Communists are “better” to rule a country not my own.
I will say taxpayer dollars for universal, holistic health, clean air, water, food, world class education, housing the homeless, addressing other conditions of despair rather than funding despair abroad.
Ah yes, the authoritarian Nazi… Jew who is president of Ukraine.
Are you here from Hexbear or something?
LGBT Nazi Jews aggressively defending their own country from genocide.
The Advocate, known for supporting Nazis.
https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/10/25/even-during-war-ukraines-zelensky-works-advance-lgbtq-rights
EDIT: Oooh this triggered some people. Fight my words, don’t blithely downvote bc I’m outside the orthodoxy. Naziesque/ultranationist Telegram channels below, and yes they are all actively fighting in AFU
Meat Squad, seemingly dead channel, but members openly displayed swastika tattoos
War Hatred, was heavily involved in defense of Bahkmut, now forming an ultranationalist paramilitary militia outside AFU oversight. Black sun openly on display.
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Ukraine absolutely has an undercurrent of far-right, ultra nationalism in its populace, and yes there are definitely Nazis in the AFU who get excused with a wink because they tend to also be part of very effective units. I can link you to multiple Telegram channels where borderline Nazi/white supremacist iconography is displayed openly, and the commenters encourage it
I’m tired of seeing Black Suns^ and Totenkopfs^ drawn and placed on gear we provide them, let alone the gear and weapons the Ukrainians provide to the Russian separatists- who are openly white supremacist
Azov battalion cleaned their most problematic leadership in like 2022 before they were folded into the AFU, but their founding leader was invited back from exile in Turkey last fall
Ukraine has a budding far-right problem, and will continue to do so as long as they look the other way. Slava Ukraini, but fuck dude there is a problem there that needs addressing outside of shutting down low effort Russian trolls
^ Yes I know it’s not 100% a Nazi icon. It’s a huuuge dog whistle though
If America drafted the US population today sure as shit they would sweep up an inordinate number of nazis. Does that make America fasict?
Never said that Ukraine, the Kyiv leadership, AFU or any organization was fascist. There’s an undercurrent of far-right nationalism that they have been reluctant to fully address, and there’s open evidence these actors are recruiting
Same could be said about the US.
Then we both have work to do… Or are you saying that it’s not a problem?
Yrs it is and you may as well have saved the typing. They’re not gang-jumping your comment yet, so I’m impressed.
No I just have an attention span longer than five minutes. You accuse me of trolling with a troll. Nazi, fascist, all the same; unless you argue Israel couldn’t possibly be genociding Palestinians and bibi isn’t a fascist because such a statement is antisemitic. In which case tell Noam, he probably cares more than I do about your false accusations.
Noam? Noam Chomsky, noted genocide denier?
Sure, the Nazi fascist that The Advocate supports.
One of those pro-LGBT+ Jewish Nazis.
Why do you keep using social virtue signals to prove you’re right? People can be right about one thing and wrong about another. You and certain other users gang-dragged me before and I stuck by my position, agree with you on others and I’m not worried you disagree, using only insults and social virtue signaling to do. I said what I said. I dummy agree with taxpayer dollars supporting fascism, at home or abroad.
I see, pointing out that the premier LGBT+ publication in the U.S. probably wouldn’t support a Nazi is ‘virtue signals.’
Also, ‘gang-dragged?’ Do you think we got together and coordinated or something?
Also also, please quote me insulting you- or was that a lie?
Yes; idk but it’s certainly hive mind; so your asking if I was from a certain server wasn’t an insult in your mind, nor your whole holier-than-thou condescending tone in all the posts past and present, wrt the same topic: disingenuous at best, sure. Here, this user said it all, after the first time you particular three brigaded Mr the first time I expressed myself wrt funding Nazis, I resolved to no longer waste time defending my position:, but this user thoughtfully used a lot of time to make good points, which probably won’t phase you. https://lemm.ee/comment/9122407
Ukraine needs our help right now.
Do you know WHY you even have the ability to make the thoughtless statement you did here? Its because nations like France help the USA during the Revolutionary war. We in the USA would not be a sovereign nation without their help. source.
Right now you’d be swearing fealty to King Charles in England if France followed your advice.
You managed to find the nation sized version of “screw you, I got mine” with your logic.
Bold* of you to assume and lecture. I’m aware my opinion diverges from what the billionaires sold most people as their opinion. I differ and it’s nothing to do with privilege. Perhaps you might study the mirror principle.
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You are privileged to live in freedom because another country sacrificed for yours when you needed it, but you’re not willing to do the same for another country when they need it.
I invite you to lecture me on how that is not the epitome of “screw you, I got mine”.
Oh right. Yes, you are special.
Just not the way you think you are.