why do you people love celebrities so much?
if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy
You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.
It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.
Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…
Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?
I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far
It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).
For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.
In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.
I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.
seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.
After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)
he was never that good in the movies without his co-stars.
It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references
Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).
All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.
It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.
Add the chick from season 1 of the mandelorian. She’s super gross and trumpy.
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There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen
there’s a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2
Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock. Guy isn’t a genuine role model anymore.
Kevin Spacey. Bill Cosby. Danny Masterson. Steven Tyler. Anthony Kedis.
They are all gross now that I know more about them; some moreso than others.
I feel like I’m the only one who was always creeper out by Kevin Spacey. American Beauty just seemed like blatant confirmation he was no good to me.
JK Rowling. Why can’t she just shut up and write kids books?
In that regard I have to praise Stephanie Meyer: she made her money and then fucked off, never to be heard from again.
I have to praise Stephanie Meyer
Except the Twilight series glorified toxic relationships, normalized abuse and underage grooming, and hit an uncomfortable number of red flags in DSM-5.
mormon propaganda
Dave Chappelle and Dwayne Johnson.
Why the rock?
Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they’re just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that “they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them.” It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.
THE Transphobe
I hate that I’m pretty sure I know who you’re referring to.
Can’t go back to loving Harry Potter anymore. 🙃
Sad indeed, it really sours it.
Jack Black.
What’s wrong with Jack Black?
He basically defended trump when his music partner made a joke.
Came here to say that.
why he isn’t liked anymore?
His Tenacious D bandmate, Kyle Gass, made a joke about assassinating Donald Trump. Black put out a statement criticizing and distancing himself from Gass while also placing the band on hiatus, cancelling a then-ongoing world tour. People feel he threw a longtime friend under the bus in order to protect his public image.
I get why someone would lose respect for him over that, but he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image of inclusivity rather than culture warrior. He’s in the “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar” camp which is probably where folks like Fred Roger’s would be were he here today.
So I guess I didn’t expect much more from him, but I’m also not a huge fan or anything, just enjoy his work, so I’m not in a position to really be disappointed in him.
he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image
Damn dude just say you don’t know anything about Tenacious D. Lol.
Alternate theory: Jack understands that bad press impacts the movies he works on and that hundreds to thousands of people depend on those movies doing well. It sucks he did this but as an adult whose actions could have a negative impact on my co-workers incomes I get it
Maybe, but I don’t agree fully. He made a huge deal about it while singing his distasteful songs. the joke was par for the audience course.
Kelsey Grammer.
I still can’t believe he’s riding the Trump train, and is returning as Beast for the new Marvel films at the same time. The cognitive dissonance is confounding me.
Dave Chapelle
Dave Chapelle
Yup, he turned into a dick as he got old. A lot of celebs do that, or they cant afford that PR team anymore that used to make the look like they werent aholes.
