Republicans denounce comparison of 27 October event to notorious 1939 rally made by Democrats and Jewish leaders

Donald Trump’s decision to hold a rally in the heart of Manhattan on 27 October, nine days before election day, has been slammed by New York Democrats, with one comparing the booking to an infamous Nazi rally held at the same venue in the lead-up to the second world war.

But it has also triggered a backlash to such sentiments, with Republicans saying such rhetoric heightens tensions even more in a presidential election campaign which has already seen two attempts on Trump’s life.

The Democratic state senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal, whose district includes much of the west side of Manhattan where a date on Trump’s “arena tour” rally has been booked at Madison Square Garden, called on venue owners to cancel the event.

“Let’s be clear,” Hoylman-Sigal wrote on X. “Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939.”

Hoylman-Sigal was referring to a pro-Hitler rally, organized by the German American Bund, that was attended by more than 20,000 people and featured a portrait of George Washington flanked by swastikas. Many attendees came from Yaphank, Long Island, where the Bund was headquartered and had a summer camp teaching Nazi ideology.


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    There are other creepy parallels to Nazi propaganda techniques, like the flypast and morbid fixation with the death of adherents. The main difference seems to be that trump is less competent and in terminal decline before he achieves his goal. At least Hitler was compos mentis during the lead up to the seizure of power. By the time he completely lost his shit Germany at large was also fucked.

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    I don’t think they can segment this venue down small enough to make this thing look full for him. Is he really sure this is what he wants?

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    Repubs are mad that the terrorists they radicalized are going after their racist demagogue.

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      I agree, and I can’t believe I’m saying this - because the Republicans are unequivocally going full Nazi, BUT

      Republicans are doing crazy Nazi shit all the time. Yeah, the date has significance to American Nazis, and normally anything Nazi would have been publically perceived bad pre-Trump.

      Even then, the Nazi accusations are often poorly executed and come off more as “EvErYoNe On ThE rIgHt Is A nAzi” and less “You are being categorically lied to, and if you vote Republican you will be irreversibly enslaved by the business class”

      But we are so far past Republicans dancing around Nazism that complaining about sharing a Nazi date/location isn’t going to make anyone clutch their pearls and see clearly.

      Trump and the Republicans going full Nazi doesn’t have much impact to the American population because

      1. There are no consequences to being a punk ass Nazi bitch if you’re Republican, it’s actually a pre-requisite now.

      2. No one is producing content to accurately show the Republican path to Nazism, the parallels, the significance, and the danger. No mention of union riots and former working conditions in the US, nothing.

      3. Both political parties are entirely beholden to the donor class who is warming up to Nazism, which is why the Anti-Nazi rhetoric is only done in small, insignificant doses instead of a competent national Anti-Nazi campaign so Democrats have plausible deniability that they warned the public.

      People aren’t threatened by Trump and will vote for him because America doesn’t tolerate traitors, and if anything Democrats said about Trump is true, surely he would be Jailed in Guantanamo Bay by now.

      Total lack of consequences = evidence of innocence, so anything you say against Trump is hand-waved away because if anything was wrong/bad it wouldn’t be allowed.

      This logic made Trump untouchable so far.

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      a few thousand people might attend the local event, but hundreds of millions of people will see it or read about it. they’ll still be yapping about it when they paint new york state blue on the map at 9:01pm eastern on election day.

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    Am I missing something? This is a major venue that has hosted the DNC and the RNC. What’s the story??

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    I think Americans dont understand that at this point everything that comes out about Trump is so negative that is causing certain kind of empathy, people should know when to stop. Im not saying that he is right or wrong but this holy war every single day at all times is very annoying. Sincerely an European

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      I think Americans dont understand that at this point everything that comes out about Trump Nazis is so negative that is causing certain kind of empathy, people should know when to stop. Im not saying that he is they are right or wrong but this holy war every single day at all times is very annoying. Sincerely an European.

      • Nazi sympathizer

      That’s how I read that.

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        If you are that polarized you need a brain brother, things are not black and white as you try to put them. But i got you, its the easy way “with me or against me”, that’s the kind of thinking of a true dictator

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          So you’re saying we should give the fascists a chance because maybe they aren’t going to do exactly what their 900 page manifesto says they plan on doing? Do you think the world was too hard on Hitler too? I honestly don’t see how you can “both sides” a fascist in good faith, so I have to assume you have already chosen your side as the one being attacked here. And I’m going to use my brain to say I’m 100% not with fascists because it is that black and white.

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            Just where did i say they deserve a chance? You are consumed in your on brain. I just said that too much negavity can have the wrong effect and you already call me a Nazi, you just proved that i am right. Im not gonna keep answering to you, good luck

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          What are you talking about? Many Americans will become second-class citizens, arrested, disappeared or even assaulted/murdered in widespread violence against scapegoats if the fascists win. You have no idea what you are talking about as you minimize the threat of MAGA conservatives.

          Europeans will be in grave danger as well, just not as obvious a danger as we are. You will be personally affected by this election, whether you like it or not.

          Please stop minimizing what is absolutely an existential threat to countless vulnerable people globally.

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      We’re not concerned with what Europeans think when it comes to stopping the rise of fascism in our country or really anything, for that matter. Ya’ll are hypocrites. Signed, an American.

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        At this point all your, as a country, focus is hating the other part, what do you think the outcome will be? No matter who win the election if things dont scale down

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          So, is your recommendation to be nice to the fascists then? Should we politely allow them to just be fascists as if MAGA conservatism is a legitimate political platform rather than a fascist movement moving toward oppressing and killing millions of innocent people?

          Neoliberals tried the polite way for decades and that has gotten us here. So, no thanks. Politeness is an ignorant and deadly suggestion.